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lamb 02-10-2010 10:59 PM

Dr. Moyer, Hippoglossus Stenolepis??


:icon_bs:


:D



Anisakis Simplex I think it is.... The Parasite.

http://www.dpd.cdc.gov/dpdx/images/P...akid_whole.jpg



http://www.ceirsa.org/IMMAGINI/anisakis.jpg


I seem to find them in about half of halibut I encountered in "my research" so far... if not more. :o

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...t_parasite.jpg

Nasty chit. It's easy to over look 'em, even if you're looking hard. I was finding them wiggling on the top of fillet, that stayed overnight in the fridge in ziplock bag... on the fish that was "clean", I thought I didn't see any when I cut it. :(

They mostly seem to be hanging on the guts, but often they seem to take a seed on the lower belly, on the inside. Whole bunch of them bundled up, rooted in the belly flash. Sometimes on the upper stomach fillet....

That piece of the belly... hazardous material.
Throw away, or maybe take it to treat the boss you absolutely hate. :)

Supposedly, humans are too tough for Anisakis Simplex; they die if they end up, in majority of humans... but still - in some rare cases, they are fine with some unfortunate folks as hosts. Often there's is an allergic reacton... Scary.

"Cooking fish to 140ºF (60ºC) for 10 minutes, freezing fish at -4ºF (-20ºC) for at least 7 days, or blast freezing fish to -31ºF (-35ºC) for 15 hours kill the larvae."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anisakis
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/lo...in-your-sushi/

Funny, I posted on this on couple of fishing boards - boddyboaters, and I think bastards - they both went down.... :o




Holy Flat!!!

The common English name, halibut, is derived from the Middle English term, “Hally butte” (hally meaning holy and butte denoting flat).


Baaaaaaaah :cheers1:

swinginFish 02-11-2010 02:55 AM

Worms
 
Adi,

Thanks for the follow-up/research on the worms. Accurate info. and really helpful.

Avery

gary sullivan 02-11-2010 05:37 AM

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bentrod1 02-11-2010 07:56 AM

LMFAO! Hilarious!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 51397)
Is that you Adi?

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Holy crap Andy, that Halibut wrestling just made my morning - nice pull!

Nice Hali - worms and all!!

DESTROYER 02-11-2010 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary sullivan (Post 51427)
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http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ernut/walk.jpg

What the Hell is Brad wearing??? I took a shot Adi...Very common parasite in flat fish. Cook those worms...protein:cool:

fishes 02-11-2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DESTROYER (Post 51378)
PBers SUCK:the_finger:...

http://imgur.com/VtUjW.gif

dgax65 02-11-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamb (Post 51424)

"Cooking fish to 140ºF (60ºC) for 10 minutes, freezing fish at -4ºF (-20ºC) for at least 7 days, or blast freezing fish to -31ºF (-35ºC) for 15 hours kill the larvae."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anisakis
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/lo...in-your-sushi/


Baaaaaaaah :cheers1:

Get a dive light and shine it through the fillets to find worms. Adi, you catch so many halibut you might want to build a light box to candle your fish.

If you cook halibut to 140 degrees internal temp and hold it at that temp for ten minutes you are going to have a dry, flaky, flavorless mess. I prefer halibut cooked until the center just loses the translucence, so I guess I'm taking a gamble. If you use dry ice to freeze your halibut, you can easily achieve the -31ºF needed to quickly kill the parasites.

Gino 02-11-2010 08:29 PM

I keep the smaller ones alive on the gameclip, gaffing doesnt kill them right away, takes sometimes a couple hours. all they do is swim around a little. and its buy you time on a hot bite.

If you leave them dead to long, The worms crawl out of the stomach and into the good meat.

:hmmmm:If you get a Big one I'd imagine pop a kill and paddle back in. let them swim aroudn a minute while your getting everythign resituated. they will still be plenty alive byt he time you land, then weigh it, gut it then throw it on ice.

Never had any worms in any of my halibut.



Nice Fish!

Oolie 02-16-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgax65 (Post 51474)
If you use dry ice to freeze your halibut, you can easily achieve the -31ºF needed to quickly kill the parasites.

yes, but does that mess up the meat?

i have dry ice and liquid nitrogen at my work, not far from LJ, i'm wondering if that would mess up the meat, the guys at my work think LN would destroy the meat cells.

Ed 02-16-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oolie (Post 51744)
yes, but does that mess up the meat?

i have dry ice and liquid nitrogen at my work, not far from LJ, i'm wondering if that would mess up the meat, the guys at my work think LN would destroy the meat cells.

I dry ice fish a lot for long trips. Vacuum bag it and make sure to put a towel between the fish and ice to prevent burning. Comes out excellent tablefare.

Afran 02-16-2010 11:13 PM

Nice flatt-skis.

habanero 02-17-2010 05:59 PM

Nice fish! Now I'm going to keep an eye out for them worms.


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