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Gino 10-28-2010 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hookup (Post 68093)
I totally agree with you Tim. It seems like some of those who live in La Jolla or near by are bless and does not want to share La Jolla or the fish report to those of us who are less fortunate. You know, I have gone to La Jolla many many times and spent many many hours driving to La Jolla and have not been able to land a yellowtail or a WSB for over 2 years, now that is frustrating. In fact I have even given up in going to La Jolla because of the long distance. The Day they close down La Jolla, I will LOL. :luxhello: At that point, it wouldn't matter if the fish are bitting or not or whether the fish report is real or not !!!! Happy fishing and I hope you catch all the fish in La Jolla.:reel::notworthy:

No la jolla secrets for you! :biggrinjester:

Maybe you can talk to JoshP he can sell some to ya.

but first i think youd have to explain to him why youd "LOL" if la jolla was shut down :biggrinjester:

Billy V 10-28-2010 12:13 AM

He might want to change that handle to :

Can't Hook Up .............. Bah Ha ha :p

bellcon 10-28-2010 05:06 AM

Which is worse?

1. Driving 5 hours round trip, spending 10-17 hours on the water, and getting an LJ skunk?
or
2. Having someone share some good LJ dope and not being able to pull the trip off?


personally
#1. Makes me an exhausted but satisfied kayakfishermen, ready to return as soon as possible.
#2. Makes me just about lose my fricking mind!





Geez

What the heck did fishermen do before the internet?


















OH yeah...
they went fishing:D

j mo 10-28-2010 05:46 AM

I like Billy V's style....

That is all I have to add to this thread.

steveooo 10-28-2010 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by hookup (Post 68093)
You know, I have gone to La Jolla many many times and spent many many hours driving to La Jolla

Wow, you've been a member here since '07 with all that experience fishing La Jolla, and not a single fish report? Or is it only the locals that are required to give reports?

FWIW, I'm all for sharing fish reports. You can follow me on twitter or facebook :biggrinjester:

Iceman 10-28-2010 07:57 AM

FYI the OP was referring to Moonlight Beach in Encinitas, north county guys have no worries as most of the LJ kayak fishermen only fish LJ and only from the Shores.

There are squid everywhere right now. We have squid at Redondo and WSB and YT being caught, saw 3 light boats off Izors here in HB last night, north county, most of the squid boats are off the south end of LJ lately, so head to Bird Rock, Big Rock or Tourmaline. It is the year of the squid.

Pick your days according to your schedule, weather and confidence building tides! You can't catch yesterday's fish!

I am fishing manana and it ain't La Jolla! :D

TCS 10-28-2010 08:31 AM

26 replies to this thread so far. 876 views. There are a few lurkers out there.

As to the hot bite, it doesn't always help to know about it. I think the guys who fish a lot catch more fish because they are better fishermen. It takes more than just being out there.

More frustrating than knowing there's a 'hot bite' and not being able to go is being out there during a hot bite and not being able to catch one. But it also provides motivation to go back out and try again.

WahooUSMA 10-28-2010 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookup (Post 68093)
The Day they close down La Jolla, I will LOL. :luxhello: At that point, it wouldn't matter if the fish are bitting or not or whether the fish report is real or not !!!! Happy fishing and I hope you catch all the fish in La Jolla.:reel::notworthy:

,
Uh Oh! Luuuucy, you got some ssssplaining to do!

BT 10-28-2010 09:21 AM

I haven’t fished La Jolla</ST1:p in over two years, and have never caught a YT or any fish worth bragging about off my kayak. Mostly because I am not a morning person at all...and to get up at 0-dark-30 to get to the launch is something that takes a lot of planning for me. So someone could post an exact GPS location on here saying that there is the largest <ST1:p<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/ ...laceType w:st=</st1:PlaceType>school of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">YT</st1:PlaceName></ST1:p just chilling there and eating everything and anything, and they will he there for the next 3 days. I probably wouldn’t be able to go because I have a busy schedule and my fishing buddy moved to <st1:State w:st="on"><ST1:pOhio </ST1:p</st1:State>so he isn’t here to push me to go like he used to.

<O:p</O:pI fish when I can, and I haven’t been able to over the past year because of a new addition to the family (and a couple of surgeries) which takes up a lot of my time, and I miss the posts by a lot of the guys on here that would go out and catch a sweet YT or Ghost and I would watch in awe. But I also respect that. I notice a lot of the old posters don’t post anymore because this sport became so popular and because it’s true that the yaks start catching before the PB’ers do and the lurkers kill it for you. My favorite post off all time was that of the guy (Brad?) grilling hot dogs on his yak, while taking a break from fishing.

<O:p</O:pYou guys that hit it all the time rock! I wish I could. But I think a lot of people get the fever on here to catch once a good post is put up. Being on the water to me is a pure joy. The most fishing I do is for bugs off my yak (remember I am a not a morning person, but I night creature), and if I go home empty handed, I still look back at the beautiful night I had out on the water enjoying nature and the sights and sounds.<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

To the guy who said he would laugh when they closed <ST1:pLa Jolla</ST1:p you are just wrong. I don’t get to fish there a lot like I said (and I live 15 minutes away), but once my kids get old enough I want them to be able to enjoy the water just as much as I do, and to have La Jolla as an option. I learned a lot reading this board, and every time I paddle out in LJ I am still a rookie, novice, newbie, and what ever you want to call me, but I respect LJ, I respect the guys who charge it as much as possible, and I respect every inch of water I get to paddle on.
<O:p
I think Iceman said it best by saying you can’t catch yesterday’s fish.
<O:p
Take the tips and advice the seasoned fishermen on this board share and go make your own story…who knows it might just be a good one!
<O:p
I do want to hit <ST1:place La Jolla</ST1:p up again soon as I still would like a kayak YT (or hali, ghost, thresher) under my belt and to feel that sleigh ride. Truth is, I kayak because I love the ocean. I grew up on the ocean and living 15 minutes from it KILLS me. When I get out there, even if I don’t catch anything I will still have the best time of my life.

Right now lobster season is on (night time activity!!!) and I am focused on that. But I still enjoy the posts about the YT and ghosts even if they are "late."

maui jim 10-28-2010 11:31 AM

At least they did not give the secret spot away next to the dam, under the bridge, and east of the spillway, or I would be pissed :mad:

kareem korn 10-28-2010 11:33 AM

Well this thread is about seeing squid boats not anyone asking for a super secrete wsb or yt bite. I think it's lame that some think they are so local that info like that is so top super secrete. I also think it's funny that I've seen some of these same people when they first started out kayak fishing paddling past me with all the wrong gear asking me for advice, tips and any extra bait that I might be sporting on the way in. Troll a bait high and one low for a couple of wsb or yt under your belt because you can hit it four days a week and all of a sudden your in a top secrete code group.

But.....whatever, I don't have a problem catching fish. I just think it's funny....................................and kinda sad also.


I just want to fill my freezer and frying pan with squid. You can keep that nasty tasting wsb and yt. :)



Anyone want to hit my local spot of DVL in a sit in kayak, I'll be more than happy to show you all my super secretes :p.

DESTROYER 10-28-2010 12:50 PM

Very interesting thread.


I've always been willing to give up information, just not so much on an open thread because I fear haters and voyeurs. I fish for fun, period. I am one of those guys now who can't fish all the time because of family and work obligations. I depend highly on some friends who fish La Jolla a lot to give me the "Dope". Sometimes I just go fishing.

La Jolla 101
  • Keep a Log (I have been keeping a log for over 3 years now and I can almost predict when the fish are going to bite)
  • Tides and Moon Phases are critical when fishing La Jolla. I find that fishing just before or just after a full moon is very productive. Also fishing just before a storm rolls in has produced great fishing.
  • Watch the Bait. I see people make bait and then leave the spot where the bait is. Why? The fish are going to be where the bait is unless the bait is so thick you can walk on the surface.
  • Some deadly techniques:
  • Salas 6x Jr. in Blue/White, White, White Glow tipped with Live or Dead Squid reeled just off the bottom and put in the rod holder. Put the clicker on and loosen the drag a little.
  • Krockadile in Chrome/Blue, Chrome/Green, Chrome. Pin a Mackeral tail hooked and work the kelp during the months of March/April, make sure you are fishing spectra though with a heavy topshot.
  • 1/0, 2/0 J Hooks or Circle hooks with 40# Flourocarbon, fly-lined
  • Green Backs are the shit, Squid is the candy, and Spaniards produce nice fish as well. Halibut love lizardfish and Smelt.
  • Be nice to people on the water, say "Hi", you never know who you are going to run into, they may offer you information on the water.
  • Spots to learn: 1/4, 1/2, Pat's Spot, 3/4, "The Hump", The Canyon
Just so that the peopele who are new know, I have been kayak fishing for a very long time and my learning curve in LJ was 2 years. It took me 2 years to catch my first WSB and YT. There was only about a dozen guys fishing LJ religiously at that time. I still go and get skunked. I have had a good catch ratio lately because I have good friends who give me information. Trust me, they don't offer it up but I ask the right questions that put me on the fish. I also have the prevlidge to work in LJ and often can tell from 10 years of watching it when something is happening.

Things don't usually bother me, but Hookup's LOL comment about LJ shutting down is about the rudest thing anyone has ever said on this website. Watch out for that Kharma Train my friend.:the_finger:

Always here to help, Tight Lines

Matt Moyer

Jzo 10-28-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DESTROYER (Post 68118)
La Jolla 101... Matt Moyer

Wow, great input, thx for sharing! :cheers1:

StinkyMatt 10-28-2010 01:29 PM

How can you be a fisherman, a kayaker, a member of this site and wish for La Jola to shut down. Just plain dumb.

My original intent of this thread was not to get "free" goodies given to me. It was to express my frustration with having to decipher the "code" I am getting better at this, have made a couple of friends here and received great info whenever I asked someone.

I understand the thing about the fleet shutting things down, makes sense.

Matt

roby 10-28-2010 02:35 PM

I'm new to this site, and I'm with the "go fish more" group. And I'm also in the group that calls the member that wants La Jolla to close an "asshole."

Fiskadoro 10-28-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DESTROYER (Post 68118)
I've always been willing to give up information, just not so much on an open thread because I fear haters and voyeurs. ....

I hear that!

For me it's kind of weird because being from LA so I'm constantly out of the loop.

For instance I had a quality fish I caught down there, held the picture for months, actually edited the background to make it appear I was fishing somewhere else then where I was fishing when I caught it and then when I posted it I got an email from a local saying:

"Man why did you post the bite? You're going to ruin everything!!!"

The deal was I posted the pic right on top of the bite at the location in the pic, and being from LA I had no idea it was even going on. :D

For me basically I quit posting successful trips. The funny thing is if you don't post pics people think you don't fish..LOL

Still unless it's right before a storm or I know the bite is dead I'm not going to post a report, because I don't want to ruin things for the locals.

Unfortunately on the other side of that coin for me is because people don't post the bites anymore so I never know what's going on down there untill it's over.

Basically If I want to catch fish at La Jolla I have to commit and go at least once a week until I just happen to hit it right. It would be nice to have someone feeding me info, but you can't rely on others to tell you when it's going on you just have to go and find fish for yourself.

Jim

chris138 10-28-2010 03:33 PM

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Basically If I want to catch fish at La Jolla I have to commit and go at least once a week until I just happen to hit it right. It would be nice to have someone feeding me info, but you can't rely on others to tell you when it's going on you just have to go and find fish for yourself.

This is right on, although even the stingy tightlip donkey slayers will loosen up when you're sitting out there with them all alone at 3am. Just wait till you get your lucky hookup and when you get to shore, all of a sudden its 20 questions coming your way.

Half the time even your most trusted informants will send you on a wild goosechase up to torrey pines or something. Took me 4 years on a kayak in the cove to get my 1st wsb and yt. I think the common consensus is that information will be shared with those who put in the time, show respect and follow the correct ediqute. But it also doesn't hurt to hire ol' darkhorse:biggrinjester:

roadx 10-28-2010 04:23 PM

Thanks DESTROYER for the LJ 101


and everyone else that has tried to help me :bigear:
(you know who you are)

enjoying my time on the water but sooner or later, i will get to do the happy paddle in.

bob 10-28-2010 04:41 PM

I sure caused what I was hoping for. The plastic army is sure funny. You got played. This is a chess match. Ha Ha. It has to do with money. You guys are so far off of what I am doing. Who is to say I dont have something to gain from that post. When you make money from the ocean You learn how to fish. I have added internet fishing to my tackle box. Competition sucks... so does pay back. You are a small fish in a big sea.

I am a glowing green boat... hint hint

Aaron&Julie 10-28-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookup (Post 68093)
I totally agree with you Tim. It seems like some of those who live in La Jolla or near by are bless and does not want to share La Jolla or the fish report to those of us who are less fortunate. You know, I have gone to La Jolla many many times and spent many many hours driving to La Jolla and have not been able to land a yellowtail or a WSB for over 2 years, now that is frustrating. In fact I have even given up in going to La Jolla because of the long distance. The Day they close down La Jolla, I will LOL. :luxhello: At that point, it wouldn't matter if the fish are bitting or not or whether the fish report is real or not !!!! Happy fishing and I hope you catch all the fish in La Jolla.:reel::notworthy:


You deserve every negative thing a fisherman can have happen (minus injury or death) to them.
LOL on La Jolla closing is the most asinine statement we've ever seen. It seems you think you somehow win if that's the case.
Any closure, past, present and future is a negative for fishermen.
But, good ahead, laugh about it.


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