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Kahouna 05-16-2011 09:31 AM

San Onofre
 
My job has be standing for hours looking at the beach area and the not-so-far-away kelp. I see cattleboats and others on a consistent basis but no yaks. Is the area worth the trouble? I tried doing some searching, but I came up with very little information.

RedSledTeam 05-16-2011 10:27 AM

There are secret Rock Fishing spots off of San Onofre in 250 feet of water. Its good this year. :cool:

flydigital 05-16-2011 10:59 AM

I tell ya, I still haven't yakked SanO but I used to fish the heck out of it when I had a boat, and surfboard-fished it all the time, including north to San Mateo Point. It's a bit of a hidden gem, the whole area, from the surf line to outside the kelp. Not much pressure at all, and you can find plenty of halibut and even WSB and the occasional YT (rare but it has happened). Bass fishing is off the hook of course. Plenty of bait as well.

I only know of a couple yakkers who go out there regularly. I think the surf launch scares off most people, as it can be "fun" many times but then again there are plenty of flatter days where it is a walk in the park.

As to where to launch, I personally would launch from the north-most area of Sano surfing beach parking area - Basilone exit (there is a deeper channel and not much surf past the shorebreak), but the guys I know who do this often always go down closer to the domes, near the south-most parking area. I think it's $15 these days for the day-use parking pass and it opens around 6am. The parking abuts the sand and its only about 50 yards to the water. The kelp starts around 25-30ft and goes out to about 60ft of depth. The kelp closer to Cotton's (San Mateo) Point, and the area just outside "Upper Trestles" where sand meets rock has been very productive for me in the past. Oh, and if you are out there often enough you'll find there are plenty of Whiteys that cruise the area. Suggest not hanging fish over the side.

rossman 05-16-2011 11:09 AM

There can be some excellent fishing in the San O area. The only flinch I have is the surf launch at Old Mans. There are really only a couple hands full of days that are doable for me, and I'm one that surf launches on every trip. Basically when the surfers are complaining about how bad the surf is, then it is a good day to go to San O, and still there are some sneaker sets that can surprise you. especialy on the way in.

Great halibut fishing just outside the surf line, and even in close in 2 - 5 ft of water. The barn kelp is about 1.5 miles from the launch, and San Mateo ke;p is about 2. Couple other artificial reefs constructed by SDG and E in the area.

Gotta keep and eye out for the taxman. Seems to be a nursury in that area. I have an encounter almost every trip there. Either a drive by or a breach. Only 6 - 8 footers but no question greate whites.

Good luck

Kahouna 05-16-2011 11:17 AM

Thanks guys. Kinda what I figured, just needed a little more umph to push me to go. I have access to the Pendleton beach, so no fees for me. I see a place where the waves aren't quite as big as the rest on most days and figured that would be the place to try.

I was kind of planning some drifting inside the kelp for some flatties then hit inside of the kelp and work my way to the outside. Somewhere in there, I should find a fish to keep me busy.

I remember the video of whitey from last year. Makes me want to find a gopro for those "special occasions".

Zed 05-16-2011 11:23 AM

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Great halibut fishing just outside the surf line, and even in close in 2 - 5 ft of water. The barn kelp is about 1.5 miles from the launch, and San Mateo ke;p is about 2. Couple other artificial reefs constructed by SDG and E in the area.
That would be SanO Kelp is about 1.5, Old Man. Heh. Barn kelp is about 6+ and better accessed from Trail 6 w/ wheels. Pendleton arti reefs about 4 from Old Man's (Just S of the checkpoint), Box Canyon ~5.

rossman 05-16-2011 11:44 AM

Once again, Zed has stumbled onto the truth

GregAndrew 05-16-2011 04:50 PM

I have been down there a few times in the past 2 years. Lots of Leopard sharks and a few Butts. I launch at the south end of the day use area where the surf is smaller. There can be 4 or more breaks in the surf zone, but you can paddle parallel to the shore after the first one or two and slowly work outside without having to breach the others. You can make bait pretty easily in front of the domes where the water from the intake and exhaust is swirling at the surface most days. If you want to fish the shallows you need to pick the days when the surfers are staying home.

buttchaser 05-16-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rossman (Post 83890)


Gotta keep and eye out for the taxman. Seems to be a nursury in that area. I have an encounter almost every trip there. Either a drive by or a breach. Only 6 - 8 footers but no question greate whites.

Good luck

I just about Poop myself the last time I fished San O, Haven't been back since 2009:leaving:

flydigital 05-16-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by buttchaser (Post 83931)
I just about Poop myself the last time I fished San O, Haven't been back since 2009:leaving:

ah, they're just little pups nothing to worry about!! :biggrinjester:

Funnest encounter I had was surfing Church's one day and had a decent 12 footer breach about 20 yards in front of me. That was the biggest one I've seen up close. I've seen em within 100 yards of me at least a couple dozen times over the years, usually breaching, usually much smaller in the 8ft range. There are tons out there, all up and down the coast. I try not to worry about it, sometimes its hard but fact is they are one of the smaller risks of being out there.

flydigital 05-16-2011 06:35 PM

Also I'd say there is no way to really "watch out" for them, when they want to nip they will, and chances are you won't see them first. Just use common sense, don't give them too much to get curious about (i.e. excessive splashing, panic, fish or blood, etc.). And if you do encounter one, just keep cool and leave the area.

Kahouna 05-16-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flydigital (Post 83947)
And if you do encounter one, just keep cool and leave the area.

:eek:

swank 05-16-2011 10:23 PM

Only ever fished San O by boat, definately some nice grade rock fish if you look around

old_rookie 05-17-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by flydigital (Post 83946)
ah, they're just little pups nothing to worry about!! :biggrinjester:

Funnest encounter I had was surfing Church's one day and had a decent 12 footer breach about 20 yards in front of me. That was the biggest one I've seen up close. I've seen em within 100 yards of me at least a couple dozen times over the years, usually breaching, usually much smaller in the 8ft range. There are tons out there, all up and down the coast. I try not to worry about it, sometimes its hard but fact is they are one of the smaller risks of being out there.

Smaller risk? What is a bigger risk than a great white near you?

bmercury 05-17-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by old_rookie (Post 83998)
Smaller risk? What is a bigger risk than a great white near you?

another person near you?

Kahouna 05-17-2011 07:58 PM

Probably a rookie question here...but you say you see them breaching. What does that entail (pun intended)? A buddy is going to go with me and he has a gopro, so if there is a chance to get the taxman on film, we are all about it. Hope that footage goes well with all the fish we catch.

buttchaser 05-17-2011 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahouna (Post 84047)
Probably a rookie question here...but you say you see them breaching. What does that entail (pun intended)? A buddy is going to go with me and he has a gopro, so if there is a chance to get the taxman on film, we are all about it. Hope that footage goes well with all the fish we catch.

Have fun !:)

http://www.grindtv.com/surf/blog/197...20his%20board/

T-Rex 05-17-2011 08:33 PM

The launch at Dogpatch at the south end of the parking area is usually the best bet, especially when the surf is up a bit. The problem with Pendleton Beach is the shorebreak -- you'd really want to make sure the surf is flat before heading out there.

gupppy 05-18-2011 07:25 AM

I went surffishing there on friday. I didn't catch anything as I was limited to a very small stretch of the beach. I had my dogs with me so I had to stay near the power plant. I fished in front of the power plant for an hour and was kicked off the beach. I guess the power plant workers and the attendant at the entrance of the beach have conflicting rules of fishing? Anyhow, I saw a few yakers that day launching from the surf... Off the rocks a couple of hundred yards north of the power plant. Seemed easy as pie, but maybe it was just a good deal. I'm not a local so I wouldn't know the typical conditions. Good luck!

cabojohn 05-18-2011 12:34 PM

You guys are crazy to paddle out & yak fish San'O with all them great white sharks swimming all around!
If you think there are only small white sharks there you are kidding yourself.
Nucking futs.:p

flydigital 05-18-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by old_rookie (Post 83998)
Smaller risk? What is a bigger risk than a great white near you?

Ok, this is only my opinion, but just being out there on the water, and getting there in the first place, poses a much greater risk than a shark attack.

There are all kinds of GWS all up and down the California coast. Biguns, smalluns, all kinduns...

One of my favorite sayings is that if you think there isn't a GWS in the area, better think again. At any moment on the water chances are there is at least one decent sized one actively patrolling the area. That's where they are, where they live, and when you go in the water you simply are with them. No way around that. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they are not there.

I've been in the water since I was about 5 years old. Grew up surfing. I've been out in the water almost as much as I have been on land. Never been attacked. Never heard of any of my friends who've done the same ever being attacked. We've all seem them plenty of times up close and personal yet we are all still here. That is my point, there are much greater risks to getting out and being on the water than a shark attack.

If you want to see one up close, I suggest spending time in the aforementioned area and just observing. Sooner or later you'll see one.

I don't know all the science of GWS but the ones I see breaching are usually smaller and what appears to be feeding (macks?). They come from the deep and speed up fast to the surface, grasping their prey and launching into the air in one quick motion. Sometimes it seems like they are practicing or just having fun. I must admit I don't stick around long to watch much when I see this, I just catch a wave in or move away from the area, depends on how freaked out I am (and how many others are out surfing the same area). Most of my sightings came during the warmer months, and the area around Church's (The first surfing spot north of the Pendleton area). It seams about 2 times a year the sightings really go up, just stay tuned to the news, they will dramatize the heck out of it. We should be seeing lots more soon.


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