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Yakin 07-23-2012 08:06 AM

PA14 Storage hanger
 
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Ok, so I spend 5 hours yesterday pondering and up in my attic, where it was so hot that my glasses burned my face, trying to figured out how to support the heavy ass hull of the PA14.
Well I finally figured it out.
I couldn't take pics of how I was able to support it threw the drywall but here we go.

only had to use one 2x4 in the attic,
measured 12'9" apart from one hanger clip to the other
install cleets on the wall to the left and to the right
Had Deefeesha weld me custom hooks for the front and back of my kayak(anything welded you need that guy can do it!!)
then I put two more hooks on both sides of the kayak so once hoisted up in the air I can support the belly some with a ratchet-strap

If you want to see more pics of what went on in the attic let me know and I can get them to you.

These PA are very heavy and need to be supported with a stronger beam then most kayaks

maui jim 07-23-2012 09:09 AM

NICE....

Too bad you could not mount PA to directly lower onto roof of you car. Save yourself some early morning lifting..

Yakin 07-23-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by maui jim (Post 126356)
NICE....

Too bad you could not mount PA to directly lower onto roof of you car. Save yourself some early morning lifting..

I still have to figure an easier way how to lift it up in the air.
I am thinking maybe something like a crank you see on a boat trailer?
But it is a lot easier for me to mount it on my ladder rack on my truck then it was for me to hoist it up in the air

Deefeesha 07-23-2012 09:47 AM

Glad it worked out for yall. :D

Yakin 07-23-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Deefeesha (Post 126361)
Glad it worked out for yall. :D

Yeah the hooks fit perfect on there! I am glad I had you make the rear bigger!

StinkyMatt 07-23-2012 10:40 AM

It would be much, much easier if you got rid of that white clunker blocking your way. I mean, that thing just gets in your way:mad:.


I have an extra space in my garage you can use....just leave the keys(in case I have to move it or something):D

Yakin 07-23-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 126366)
It would be much, much easier if you got rid of that white clunker blocking your way.

Believe it or not, that color is called Corvette Blue.
it was only around in the 70s models Corvettes and maybe even the EARLY 60s if you look at the roof of it you can see a very very very light hint of light sky blue.
Very rare finding one with the original Corvette Blue still on it!:cool:

bus kid 07-23-2012 12:50 PM

Impressive, I don't see a single knot. :D

Deefeesha 07-23-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 126380)
Impressive, I don't see a single knot. :D

I'll take credit for that; I invented the knotless hangers for him ;)

Poxy Boggards 07-23-2012 03:11 PM

Good timing on this post as I am trying to figure out how to hang my Revo up in a similar fashion. I would love to see some clear pics of how you have the rope connected to the PA. Looks like a custom bracket of some kind, but can't really make it out.

I was thinking about using double nylon straps to hold up the Kayak and a hoist to give me a mechanical advantage when lifting it into the air.

Anyone else hang their kayak and want to share some photos?:cheers1:

Yakin 07-23-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Poxy Boggards (Post 126411)
Good timing on this post as I am trying to figure out how to hang my Revo up in a similar fashion. I would love to see some clear pics of how you have the rope connected to the PA. Looks like a custom bracket of some kind, but can't really make it out.

I was thinking about using double nylon straps to hold up the Kayak and a hoist to give me a mechanical advantage when lifting it into the air.

Anyone else hang their kayak and want to share some photos?:cheers1:

the guy that posted right above you is who made my hangers for.

bus kid 07-23-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Poxy Boggards (Post 126411)
Good timing on this post as I am trying to figure out how to hang my Revo up in a similar fashion. I would love to see some clear pics of how you have the rope connected to the PA. Looks like a custom bracket of some kind, but can't really make it out.

I was thinking about using double nylon straps to hold up the Kayak and a hoist to give me a mechanical advantage when lifting it into the air.

Anyone else hang their kayak and want to share some photos?:cheers1:

http://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html

Upgrade the rope, add lifting straps and a few heavy clips. I use mine to lift my revo onto a Talic rack. I will post some pics tonite if I get home early enough.

yani 07-23-2012 03:39 PM

Hobie would be proud...
 
Very smart move. Although the PAs are hobie's cost top dollar,
their bottoms are made from soft plastics that deform
and desort with temp, time, and pressure.

Leaving your PA on the floor, or, even transporting it
on its bottom in your pick up will deform the PAs bottom.

Hobie is not alone. Other kayak makers do the same thing.
Soft bottoms means more profit for kayak manufacturers.

roadx 07-23-2012 04:21 PM

when i picked up my 12 there was a 14 that had it's back grab bar almost completely ripped off. i asked, what caused that??? they said " they stored the 14 in a hot garage and suspended it by it's grab bars" not recommended by hobie.

Yakin 07-23-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by roadx (Post 126427)
when i picked up my 12 there was a 14 that had it's back grab bar almost completely ripped off. i asked, what caused that??? they said " they stored the 14 in a hot garage and suspended it by it's grab bars" not recommended by hobie.

When I was at iCast I talked to the hobie reps about my idea and they said the same thing to me but They said that my middle blue rachet strap i have running threw the side arms would help spread the weight out evenly. Also my garage doesnt get above 80 due to living in the san bernardino mountains.And if it does it is only way day every now and then. I guess I can hope and prey over time to see how it works.

roadx 07-23-2012 05:02 PM

keep an eye on it. sometimes you have to do what you have to do. i would think the more supports the better.

dorado50 07-23-2012 05:06 PM

Block and tackle pully system....been around for centuries. You need more support for hull. Try a sling system with six inch wide straps...Quite an easy project actually...good luck

Yakin 07-23-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dorado50 (Post 126438)
Block and tackle pully system

where can I find this?

T-Rex 07-23-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Yakin (Post 126440)
where can I find this?

West Marine sells a nice 6:1 Harken lift system for $140 and an 8:1 system for $170.
http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/21700...ll/2043024.jpg


On the other end of the spectrum, I saw this bicycle lift at Harbor Freight for under $10. It's pretty light duty and I'd be pretty nervous suspending a PA over anything with it. The mounting hardware was okay, but the pulleys were a little flimsy.
http://www.harborfreight.com/media/c...mage_13517.jpg

StinkyMatt 07-23-2012 08:28 PM

The harbor freight lift works fine, as long as you mount it in a solid way. Had it now for two years supported a revo, an outback and now an outfitter.

Like Dorado said, buy some thicker straps.

RockyRaab 07-24-2012 07:23 AM

I intend to buy one of the Harken systems for my PA14 as soon as my deck gets remodeled. Here's the link to all their products... http://www.harkensport.com/cat/hoister.html

Caballito 07-24-2012 08:28 AM

Maybe suspend it in a cargo net?

Yakin 07-24-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 126464)
The harbor freight lift works fine, as long as you mount it in a solid way. Had it now for two years supported a revo, an outback and now an outfitter.

Like Dorado said, buy some thicker straps.

I actually went up into my attic and laid in 2x4 to make a bigger and stronger area for support then putting the screws for my pullies strait into the end of the 2x4 which was already in there under the drywall

MWC359 07-24-2012 08:31 PM

When I had a PA last year I was searching the Hobie site and saw a guy had a system alot like yours but he had some kinfd of electric motor attached. And if im not mistaked another guy used an electric drill motor to spin his up. Sorry I dont have the link but I know I read it and saw the pics.

Yakin 07-24-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MWC359 (Post 126593)
When I had a PA last year I was searching the Hobie site and saw a guy had a system alot like yours but he had some kinfd of electric motor attached. And if im not mistaked another guy used an electric drill motor to spin his up. Sorry I dont have the link but I know I read it and saw the pics.

Many different ways to do it and I will update pics when I profect it. I just needed to get it off the ground. Just hope the way Ive done it doesnt hurt my kayak. I hope andy can come in with his expert advice.

Old Man in the Sea 07-25-2012 10:57 AM

The PA storage rack I built
 
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I used an old canoe trailer for $275 and got hobie cradles for the PA - it is also a knotless, truck free version that requires minimal lifting...and can be pulled downhill by a motorcycle...

itchybass 07-26-2012 04:50 PM

I don't have a PA so not sure my setup would work in your case but i'll share to at least give you some ideas. I bought a couple of the harbor freight bike lifts and they work great for my revo, that is with a couple of modifications. Here is a pic of my revo hanging in my garage.
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/...726_171303.jpg

So basically i just put up a couple of 2x6's between my rafters and mounted the bike lift to them. Here's a pic of them.
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/...726_171310.jpg

There are a couple of necessary modifications to make the bike lift work for a yak due to the increased weight. You will need to replace the cheap plastic pulleys with higher quality metal ones. I found a couple at home depot and they were pretty cheap. I also replaced the rope that came with the bike lift with some climbing rope.

Another thing I did to make lifting the kayak easier was buy a second bike lift and mount another pulley to one of my walls. This really helped and putting my kayak up takes less than a minute. Here's a pic of this pulley.
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/...726_171316.jpg

If you have any questions just let me know. I hope this gives you some ideas.


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