Malibu
 

WSB are till showing up here. I didn't go out today but a buddy who owns a boat came up with 2 40 lb class fish. Does anyone on here fish malibu? seems like the guys up here either don't care for the internet or are wayyyyyy more territorial. whats up with that?

thanks for the heads up. never fished malibu yet. and maybe they are keeping a tight lip on the bite.

I'm new to yak fishing so learning the ropes. Went out to Zuma beach today 8:30 - 11am and caught a small rock fish and a small lizard fish on frozen squid. Took in alot of water launch so was running heavy with no bilge pump = paddling was slow and I didn't go to far out. Think i'll stick to Ventura/Oxnard harbors :)

Damn!!! I'd give you some basic info about Malibu, like where to launch, what water temps are important or even parking hours on PCH, but then someone would have to kill me.

Jim

PM sent, not for fishing info, I need a recipe for sugar cookies. :D

if u hit Zuma proper
u broke the new law
its out of bounds for fishing

unless u were 3 mi or farther out

if u hit broad beach north
and were werkin palegics
u be ok

there are 2 new zones
the northern zone's rules are worded awkwardly

get a hand pump
it is an important
accessary




wsb can be had
up and down the coast
wherever there is kelp
and squid

[QUOTE=radastaff;128123]if u hit Zuma proper
u broke the new law
its out of bounds for fishing

unless u were 3 mi or farther out

if u hit broad beach north
and were werkin palegics
u be ok

there are 2 new zones
the northern zone's rules are worded awkwardly



Yeah be careful dude, that's a hefty fine if u get caught, and ignorance of the law isn't an excuse

http://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.as...95&inline=true

Wording is a little weird, yeah, but for us non spearos zuma is off limits for all fish, dume is off limits for everyone

No sugar cookies in Malibu, but I do know a thing or two about biscuits :D

Ooops!!! Thanks for the info. and the map for off limit areas. I asked a lifeguard a few weeks back and they didnt mention it. Glad I didnt get caught. I think I'll stick to Ventura Harbor and outlet for a bit. Might head out Saturday morning a little yak time.

Try leo Carrillo and county line. Both pretty mellow launches and good fishing. The cuda have been in pretty thick, sand bass and calicos are always around too

Actually County Line is probably the most dangerous launch spot commonly fished in Malibu. Used to be a group of "locals" would tell every Newbie they met that the fish were biting at County Line. They'd then go and take pictures of them when they wiped out in the surf and got hurt or lost their gear.

In general Leo and County line get bigger surf and are better for more advanced kayakers, while the easier launches are on the lee side of the point east of point Dume, Esco, Corral Canyon, and Malibu Pier.

I use magic seaweed to check surf conditions.
http://magicseaweed.com/County-Line-...rf-Report/277/

http://magicseaweed.com/Malibu-First...rf-Report/279/

Right now County Line is good do to the South swell but next week it's probably going to get a little brutal. Generally any time it lists surf over three feet it's not worth going unless you know what your doing, and I'd say that for all the launches, with the exception is Malibu pier which is almost always do-able.

County Line and Leo can be epic for Seabass and can always produce quality Rockfish, and some big butts. Esco is still good but keep in mind BKR the reef west of Paradise Cove is now in a reserve. Corral is good for Halibut and can be Epic for Tsharks, Malibu Pier is probably the most underrated Halibut fishing in So Cal. I've seen more Halibut over forty pounds taken between the Pier and the Pepperdine spike than anywhere else in California.

Watch out for the "locals only" crowd. 90% of the people that you meet there will be amazingly cool, but there are a few really whacked individuals that fish there. In general if you post reports about fishing Malibu it's best to leave out the location, otherwise you'll be hunted down by the "We own Malibu's Ocean" nutcase crowd.


Ooooopsss..... Now I've gone and said too much. Surely someones going to have to vandalize my car for posting all that secret info.

Jim

glad to hear you didn't get caught at the Zu, let me know about next Saturday
I may tag along...we will see

[QUOTE=Fisherman4454;128125]
the northern zone
is fishable if your fishing for palegics
wether your a spero or not

according to the dfg
and a guy who asked them specifically that posts at scsurffishing
a few months back


Leo can be mellow at times
but is rocky by the stairs

Leo is doablejust check the tide and swell for the day first, I am still iffy on that launch myself, just stow "everything" if in doubt, you will do fine...
I put back a 43 inch ling in there on plastic last year, or the year before...
lots of good fishing in there

Point Dume State Marine Conservation Area


Map: JPG | PDF
Boundary: This area is bounded by the mean high tide line and straight lines connecting the following points in the order listed:
34° 02.28' N. lat. 118° 53.00' W. long.;
33° 59.14' N. lat. 118° 53.00' W. long.; thence southeastward along the three nautical mile offshore boundary to
33° 56.96' N. lat. 118° 49.20' W. long.; and
34° 00.76' N. lat. 118° 49.20' W. long.


Permitted/Prohibited Uses: Take of all living marine resources is prohibited except:

1. The recreational take of pelagic finfish, including Pacific bonito, and white seabass by spearfishing is allowed.

If you read closely radastaff, white sea bass are not on the pelagic finfish list. Only spearfishermen are allowed to take them in this area, not recreational fishermen.
But since this is a San Diego based site, with more yellowtail and white sea bass than anywhere in So.Cal.. Why would they bother driving 3 hours to Malibu?
With white sea bass being caught from Punta Baja to Monterey,Ca. Seems pointless to go chasing ones tail?

Not worth the drive!!! Pointless!!!! No fish in Malibu!!!! :D




Disclaimer: I'd like to point out for personal safety reasons that the above post in no way suggests that there is, has been, or ever will be a bite in Malibu, and all those who do fish Malibu, or mention it on the internet in any manner do so at their own risk.

wooooord

Zuma and Broad Beach are the same, pelagics only, no white sea bass for fishermen. The closure ends at Encinal Canyon. This MLPA closure will be fully realized in the near future. Squid don't always spawn in the same place every year. Many years, they spawn at Trancas Point/Broad Beach. Next time and everytime they do in the future, we will not be able to fish for white sea bass there.

Jim. when you used to go on the L.A. sites, you would tell them to fish La Jolla. Now your on the La Jolla site telling them to fish Malibu. Why haven't you told them to fish your area, Redondo/Manhatten Beach? There has been and still is a white sea bass bite in your neck of the woods.

Royal Palms State Beach Park north of San Pedro used to produce some good WSB before the record red tides of '05....especially juveniles throwing a Kroc in the kelp beds....I had my best Calico day there...11 fish in the 4-6 lb range in an hour or so. Used to catch halibut every other outing at places like off Sunset Point and County Line...you can still get big threshers if you paddle far enough out and remember the world record spear caught WSB...97 lbs...was straight out from Neptune's Net.
But me.....I go down to Baja.

I'm not sure why you think this threads about me, perhaps it's because you think it's about you. I do enjoy sharing actual fishing info, but in this case I was just making some generalized jokes about how uptight some Malibu fisherman can be when it comes to the web, and how they think they own the place. Maybe you shouldn't take it so personally.

Redondo is not mine. I used to live aboard at King Harbor and fished it almost daily 20 years ago so I know Redondo, and know how to fish it. That said I hardly fish it anymore. It's kind of like a ex-wife: I know it like the back of my hand but don't get the urge to go there that often.

News to me. No doubt the Redondo guys will be happy to hear that. Maybe you can take out a banner ad.

I guess that's one way to keep people out of Malibu. :cheers1:

Jim

Jim, i responded to radastaff, not you. You must have thought of yourself, since you quoted me. No worries, i have nothing more to say about the closure.

agreed
but
i only mentioned WSB as to the effect that
u can get them up and down the coast
as u point out
not as to wether they can be had in the new point dume zones or not

and in fact
what i ment to write
was that u cant keep any fish in the more southeastern zone
which is the point dume marine reserve
which ends at westard beach and goes to the northern edge of paradise parking lot
...

Point Dume State Marine Reserve


Map: JPG | PDF
Boundary: This area is bounded by the mean high tide line and straight lines connecting the following points in the order listed:
34° 00.76' N. lat. 118° 49.20' W. long.;
33° 56.96' N. lat. 118° 49.20' W. long.; thence eastward along the three nautical mile offshore boundary to
33° 57.06' N. lat. 118° 47.26' W. long.; and
34° 01.20' N. lat. 118° 47.26' W. long.
Permitted/Prohibited Uses: Take of all living marine resources is prohibited.

Should I get the popcorn ready or is the show over?

also agree
unless u are out from westward beach or southeast of there
which is still zuma as far as i know

:rolleyes: So when you said this....

.......you were not talking to me, you were talking to radastaff. ;)

Well you'll have to excuse me. It really sounded like your calling me out by name, and I mean since you've posted that same dig (it never gets old) at me maybe half a dozen times or more in the past, I just figured you were talking to me. I've fished with radastaff in Malibu, and I honestly did not recall that he's from Redondo, that he'd sworn off the Malibu boards, or that his name was Jim. Ole radastaff, and I have more in common then I realized. I always knew he was a great fisherman but this is just cool!! :cheers1:

Thanks for the clarification though. Good to know that it wasn't personal, and that you say that same stuff to anyone who posts anything, even general information about Malibu.


Oh and thanks for that Redondo bite info. Getting my gear together right now :you_rock:

Jim

I'll see you at the launch :wsb::wsb::wsb::wsb::wsb:

my bad on this
zuma proper is palegic only
as u mention
and since its not included by the dfg
no c-bass unless ure a spero

and
im not getting involved in the bickering
and dont have any opinions i wish to express at this time
about any of that bu stuff

show over
save ure popcorn for the olympics later on tonight

to bad they dont have olympic's fishing

That's what I've heard. Gary is up on the regs, he's been trying to get me to go spear with him at BKR.


Dude!!! You are far too diplomatic! I swear he's got me wondering though. Is your name really Jim? :D

ive caught some nice ones(Co's)
right off the flat top rocks there

just a bit scetchy
with a rising tide


also a sketchy launch there too
lots of rocks
did it once or twice

Before I caught a mega jumbo super fat calico on my last islander trip my largest calico was just south of royal palms in the kelp beds, that was also back in 05 or 06. Hell, I recall fishing White Point beach from the surf and catching cabezon....miss those days.

hhmmmm,,,,
 

Yes,,,back in the days when you were younger and better looking...yea we all miss those days along with you...

i would like to get some
 

time on water. i am in burbank . i still haven't figured out where to catch the fish. :mad: i did try county line 3 - 4 weeks back. like mentioned above , surfers don't go there for nothing. squid boats around , made some and tried fishing for a little bit. where else is a good spot to try . i have not been able to catch a game fish this year. :mad:

Good and take stinky back with you too, since he played in my back yard, there has not been a wsb seen! :D

But can ya still smell um?

I smell wsb farts everytime I go out.