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YakDout 10-10-2013 10:01 AM

Big calico baits
 
For all of you big calico hunters, what hard baits, jointed or non, is your favorite? I've heard of the big 10" roman customs, but they're not cheap. In excess of $100. For that kind of money I could buy mounds of plastics.

easyday 10-10-2013 10:02 AM

Waxwings are awesome, ive had calicos go airborne going after those things.

YakDout 10-10-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by easyday (Post 172156)
Waxwings are awesome, ive had calicos go airborne going after those things.

Size? 118's? Bigger?

bus kid 10-10-2013 10:54 AM

I usually throw plastics but in the Kelp Wax wing, along the rocks or Bomber A salt series

Raskal311 10-10-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by easyday (Post 172156)
Waxwings are awesome, ive had calicos go airborne going after those things.

$15-20 for one? Dahhhmmmm!

YakDout 10-10-2013 11:30 AM

Was thinking of trying a sebile magic swimmer.

William Novotny 10-10-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal311 (Post 172163)
$15-20 for one? Dahhhmmmm!

Any shimano baits are gonna run you back that much but they produce and dont tear up like plastics do. Its semi topwater and weedless so your chance of losing it is less then with plastics and with prices on plastics going up its actually not a bad investment.

Raskal311 10-10-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 172178)
Any shimano baits are gonna run you back that much but they produce and dont tear up like plastics do. Its semi topwater and weedless so your chance of losing it is less then with plastics and with prices on plastics going up its actually not a bad investment.

Most of the times I loose them because I forget to put the reel in free spool and the line snaps while trying to cast.

William Novotny 10-10-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal311 (Post 172180)
Most of the times I loose them because I forget to put the reel in free spool and the line snaps while trying to cast.

Haha well at least your not throwing roman made "mother"s. Those baits are like 500 bucks apiece haha

blitzburgh 10-10-2013 02:42 PM

Kevin are you fishing these on straight braid? That's the only way I fish mine

Raskal311 10-10-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blitzburgh (Post 172183)
Kevin are you fishing these on straight braid? That's the only way I fish mine

No with about 6 feet of floro; normally 12lbs when fishing for bass.

William Novotny 10-10-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal311 (Post 172184)
No with about 6 feet of floro; normally 12lbs when fishing for bass.

For swimbaits I fish 55# diawa samurai braid. Its smoother then most braids and quieter too. I would never put mono between my reel and anyrhing worth more then 15 bucks haha

makobob 10-10-2013 03:25 PM

Calicos, Big Calicos, BIGGEST CALICOS!
Baja or Bust 2014 has Asuncion as it's 1st trip. We should be back home and posting by the 8th of Jan. Some of us oldtimers will be fishing the Calicos hard. Rumor has it that 20-25 inch fish are common and the Sandies get pretty big too, and some Calicos up to 30+" being caught every year. Story is they swim down there and die of old age! Time will tell. I am taking my fly rod. Might get lucky! Want to see how many I can release in a day. Big calicos are awesome, YT on the other hand get to be tiring when you get to your mid 60's one a day is enough for me. Tight lines and bloody gaffs! And please feel free to join us on this or any one of OUR trips!!!

YakDout 10-10-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 172186)
Calicos, Big Calicos, BIGGEST CALICOS!
Baja or Bust 2014 has Asuncion as it's 1st trip. We should be back home and posting by the 8th of Jan. Some of us oldtimers will be fishing the Calicos hard. Rumor has it that 20-25 inch fish are common and the Sandies get pretty big too, and some Calicos up to 30+" being caught every year. Story is they swim down there and die of old age! Time will tell. I am taking my fly rod. Might get lucky! Want to see how many I can release in a day. Big calicos are awesome, YT on the other hand get to be tiring when you get to your mid 60's one a day is enough for me. Tight lines and bloody gaffs! And please feel free to join us on this or any one of OUR trips!!!

Sounds awesome. I got a couple 9lb + calico on the yoyo my last baja trip

YakDout 10-10-2013 04:59 PM

Ended up getting a savage herring swim and jerk.


And a lot more 6 in swimbaits.

YakDout 10-10-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 172185)
For swimbaits I fish 55# diawa samurai braid. Its smoother then most braids and quieter too. I would never put mono between my reel and anyrhing worth more then 15 bucks haha

That's probably why you had the extra cash for the PA ..I need to learn from this haha

makoslayer 10-11-2013 12:57 AM

when i was in cali I would throw 7 inch gulps, usually jerk shad. or the large size hammer shads.

YakDout 10-11-2013 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blitzburgh (Post 172183)
Kevin are you fishing these on straight braid? That's the only way I fish mine

You're still getting bit when ties straight to the braid? I would think that would have an affect on your hook up ratio. Maybe not?

Raskal311 10-11-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 172220)
You're still getting bit when ties straight to the braid? I would think that would have an affect on your hook up ratio. Maybe not?

Yeah I was worried about the same thing, especially when i'm running bright yellow braid.

wade 10-11-2013 08:15 AM

Broken Record Vs. Broken Baits..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 172178)
Any shimano baits are gonna run you back that much but they produce and dont tear up like plastics do. Its semi topwater and weedless so your chance of losing it is less then with plastics and with prices on plastics going up its actually not a bad investment.


This is your swimbait.
This is your swimbait on Calico.

http://youtu.be/RqArwwrgT7M

(These Plastic Swimbaits are brand new never rigged.
These ElaZtech Swimbaits have been fished many times, many fish, many nicks and cuts, hook tears rerigged & still the ElaZtech bait wont propagate a tear like plastic does..

makobob 10-11-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wade (Post 172226)
This is your swimbait.
This is your swimbait on Calico.

http://youtu.be/RqArwwrgT7M

(These Plastic Swimbaits are brand new never rigged.
These ElaZtech Swimbaits have been fished many times, many fish, many nicks and cuts, hook tears rerigged & still the ElaZtech bait wont propagate a tear like plastic does..

I've got a bunch on order for my Asuncion trip in Jan. will let you all know how they stand up to BIG Calicos!

blitzburgh 10-11-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 172220)
You're still getting bit when ties straight to the braid? I would think that would have an affect on your hook up ratio. Maybe not?

Yes Sir! They designed the Waxwing to be fished on straight braid. What I have found is when they're on the chew it almost doesn't matter with line type or size even. When they're finicky though, I'll dial back my size and go with flouro or mono and a different, less pricey bait. But as William said, with baits like the Waxwing or similar in $, it's striaght braid homie :D

YakDout 10-11-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blitzburgh (Post 172232)
Yes Sir! They designed the Waxwing to be fished on straight braid. What I have found is when they're on the chew it almost doesn't matter with line type or size even. When they're finicky though, I'll dial back my size and go with flouro or mono and a different, less pricey bait. But as William said, with baits like the Waxwing or similar in $, it's striaght braid homie :D

Roger that. Makes sense.

William Novotny 10-11-2013 01:21 PM

When I do run a leader I bulk it up to 30#. Like when im jigging a lucanus jig shimano recomends running braid to a minimum of 7' mono to avoid tangles and for better abrasion resistance around rough structure...
Wade ive heard good things about zman products and how long they last. I was refering to the big hammers, mc viejos and other weak plastics that are going through the roof price wise. They are not worth the money aby more imo

dmrides 10-11-2013 01:30 PM

I am sold on those Zmans! I have had so many tails ripped off of regular plastics when fishing calicoes in the kelp.

rieffer 10-13-2013 06:45 PM

I've caught some of my biggest Calico's on the Waxwing. Tie braid directly to it. San Diego or Uni knot. Me, personally, the mackerel pattern is killer. I've found that summer and fall are the best for the waxwing. The rest of the time , I'm playing with the plastics when it's better to go low and slow.

taggermike 10-14-2013 08:23 AM

I don't have much patience for fishing calicos in deeper water and mostly fish em in the summer when they're up on top. For top water stuff I like the jumbo slugs type plastics. When the kelp is pulled down just a foot or so below the surface a big light iron, tady 45, candy bar, salas 7x, can produce big fish. Again, its a surface summer thing but you can get a surface iron way back over the kelp and really cover the area. Also with the slugs and light iron you get to see some massive blow ups. Mike

kaya_one 10-14-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wade (Post 172226)
This is your swimbait.
This is your swimbait on Calico.

http://youtu.be/RqArwwrgT7M

(These Plastic Swimbaits are brand new never rigged.
These ElaZtech Swimbaits have been fished many times, many fish, many nicks and cuts, hook tears rerigged & still the ElaZtech bait wont propagate a tear like plastic does..

I'd buy 'em.

Siebler 10-14-2013 05:03 PM

One of the most popular Big Calico baits by far are the MC Slug or the old 7-9" Sluggos if you can find them.

makobob 10-14-2013 05:54 PM

Has anyone had a chance to fish the Z-man STREAKZ XL 8 inch baits?

YakDout 10-14-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 172430)
Has anyone had a chance to fish the Z-man STREAKZ XL 8 inch baits?

I haven't even heard of these things until this came up in the post. Excited to give them a shot though. Went through 5 swimbaits today in SD bay due to tears.

alanw 10-14-2013 07:26 PM

Don't seem to be any Zmans in the local tackle shops, online only?

easyday 10-14-2013 08:08 PM

About to order some ill bet those would be amazing in smojey shad on a dropshot

makobob 10-15-2013 07:18 AM

Tackle warehouse has the best prices, pretty good selection too.


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