Not so GWS
 

Thought I was marking a real nice WSB down by my downrigger setup, but that was not what it was. Moved 1/4 mile and 60 feet deeper and the same one, or another, came to visit.

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YIKES! :paddleersmilie:

Mako
 

With that black nose...is it a Mako?

Pretty cool video. I’m guessing it was attracted to the electromagnetic pulses of the camera. I wonder why it never even gave your bait a whiff.
Did you notice rod tip move at all while it would swim through your line?

It looks like he was smiling for the camera. He was definitely very curios about it.

I am no expert, but I am guessing GWS. Snout not as narrow, shoulders big and the dorsal begins above the pectoral.

IDK why it never bit on camera. The first bait looked like it got bit, but it was not on the 13 minutes of video leading up to the sighting. Only time my line or downrigger line moved was when the shark was swimming through them.

Thanks for the post Greg!

Well that'll be tougher to put in the back of my mind.:eek: I always said that I don't believe in sharks. After all, I've been surfing and diving the orange county coast, for 25 years and have never seen one, so they must not exist. Now that you have disproven that, I'm going to have to take up golf or lawn bowling or something. :wink:

Looks like a curious juvenile GWS

Where was this?

That's what's happening underneath your kayak while your not looking just so you know....:eek: !

I can just imagine reviewing this footage...feet up....having a beer....then BAM...GWS. woulda startled the eff outta me. sick

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Check the teeth... Long and narrow.... Mako

GWS have wide teeth.

teeth
 

Sorry PapaDave but I think I'll leave it up to you to check the teeth...LOL...!

Juvenile GWS have teeth almost exactly like Mako sharks. The only difference is that there are serrations on the edges of GWS teeth. They are also pointed back into the throat like a Mako as juveniles. They only develop the broader triangular shape teeth when they are reaching lengths into the double digits. That is also when they start to feed on mammals.

Looks like a white, just a pup. The main difference is body mass and the pectoral fins. Note the black areas on the ends of the pec fins.

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http://ocean.si.edu/sites/default/fi...?itok=K2cswev7

A mako's fins should be shorter, more rounded, and though I suppose it is possible I have never seen that exact marking on the underside a mako's pec fin.

Nice!!! Those sharks are all over the bay, but you Greg are the first one I've heard of that actually got one on underwater on camera. It always surprises me that we never hook them. Very selective feeders. Actually whites are just specialized Makos that evolved to take advantage of the marine mammal explosion. Certainly the small ones feed on fish but they are still very selective about what they feed on which is why we almost never hook them on bait or trolling for T-sharks.

We have seen a good amount of white shark activity around the bay, just within the last couple of years. Jorge actually hooked one last year and took a short sleigh ride before he got bit off. This is not actually the first white shark greg has caught on video recently. We have seen them on the surface as well, along with lots and lots of makos...really an unusualy high number of makos.

Whether or not you guys realize it...they are down there. It's probably better you guys don't realize it...and just ignore the fact....and keep on fishin'!

With Makos the increase in activity might be temp related. It used to be that we'd get the first big influx of makos when the offshore temps hit 60 to 63, which we used to call albacore temps as the albies like that same temp range. Those temps used to come in June, about the time of the first barracuda runs, now we have them all winter. I always thought they migrated north for the summer then back down to Mexican waters midwinter, and some tagging data backs that up, but it could be they are just staying here year round now.

Good to be back. Kinda missed this place :p