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jorluivil 03-22-2013 03:19 AM

Ideas: 50/200 Transducer on Outback
 
I was going to purchase the Lowrance Scupper kit but it states that it does not work with the 50/200 tranducer. Does anyone have a 53/200 tranducer mounted under their Outback or Revo?

salty pirate 03-22-2013 11:57 AM

53/200:confused:

Lipripper92592 03-22-2013 12:12 PM

I've seen a few Revos with the 50/200kz ducers mounted on the rudder. The cable is zip tied and routed to a Hobie "grommet" on the rear deck.

ful-rac 03-22-2013 12:17 PM

don't see why it wouldn't work...? looking at the 83/200 and the 50/200...they look the same...? right? I know the dsi transducers are different...compare it with matts, he's got the 83/200 I think.

StinkyMatt 03-22-2013 12:38 PM

George, it won't help you.




Remember.....

You can't buy game!


jorluivil 03-22-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ful-rac (Post 151407)
don't see why it wouldn't work...? looking at the 83/200 and the 50/200...they look the same...? right? I know the dsi transducers are different...compare it with matts, he's got the 83/200 I think.

I already compared the two and much like everything else mine is bigger:D. The 50/200 is wider and longer so it doesn't sit as snug as the 83/200. I found a few ideas on the internet but nothing that shows it mounted under the kayak.

Deamon 03-22-2013 01:22 PM

This is scaring me now...I just gooped mine on the inside. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Why aren't you doing that Jorge?

tagyak 03-22-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon (Post 151415)
This is scaring me now...I just gooped mine on the inside. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Why aren't you doing that Jorge?

if you have a high end ducer you don't want to mess with the goop. it is not going to give you accurate readings. if anything do a wet mount if you aren't going directly to the water.

jorluivil 03-22-2013 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon (Post 151415)
This is scaring me now...I just gooped mine on the inside. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Why aren't you doing that Jorge?

I'm just looking for other options. If I can't find a way to mount it outside of the kayak I'll go with the putty or the pvc wet mount.

RedSledTeam 03-23-2013 06:43 AM

seriously, in the water
 
Jorge,

I heard the DSI Xdcr needs to be in the water for best resolution and shooting through the hull attenuates the signal. So, here's an option I'm seriously thinking about for my DSI..
.

http://www.rammount.com/NewProducts/...9/Default.aspx

-ED :alberteinstein:

oneyedeer 03-28-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedSledTeam (Post 151503)
Jorge,

I heard the DSI Xdcr needs to be in the water for best resolution and shooting through the hull attenuates the signal. So, here's an option I'm seriously thinking about for my DSI...

http://www.rammount.com/NewProducts/...9/Default.aspx

-ED :alberteinstein:

very nice!

FishNinjaY 03-28-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedSledTeam (Post 151503)
Jorge,

I heard the DSI Xdcr needs to be in the water for best resolution and shooting through the hull attenuates the signal. So, here's an option I'm seriously thinking about for my DSI..
.

http://www.rammount.com/NewProducts/...9/Default.aspx

-ED :alberteinstein:

That looks like a nice option, and should work well on the Yak Attack rails as well. Also, I could move the whole set-up fairly easily to my other yak, and NOT have to buy a 2nd transducer.

HMMMMM.... :hmmmm2:

Now on a related question.. can someone help out a fishfinder noob about the difference between these Lowrance models? The guy at West Marine said the DSI has great bottom detail, but an effective range of only 200ft or so. And, that for ocean fishing, you can get past 200ft pretty quick. The 5X Elite, however, has less detail, but MUCH greater range. I also don't quite understand the 50/200 vs 83/200 transducer debate, and what the HDS offers.

Sorry to hijack a post.
I need a Lowrance tutorial! Much thanks as always folks! :cheers1:

bus kid 03-28-2013 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 151381)
I was going to purchase the Lowrance Scupper kit but it states that it does not work with the 50/200 tranducer.

Find a guy that works in a machine shop, maybe even a guy who works in a shop and kayak fishes and maybe even a guy who works in a machine shop, kayak fishes and made a custom mount for his revo not too long ago.

If you need help finding him let me know.

http://db.tt/bNjyDKOE

TJones 03-28-2013 07:31 PM

just a thought
 
i purchased similar model in hummingbird version . i went through different methods of installs . the first install was using the mad frog arm which is a similar idea to the ram mount shown . it is constructed of a rigid plastic arm that rides on a bolt the acts like a hinge . there were a few drawbacks . grass or weeds could collect on it and also it does create some drag pushing through water . so i tried in hull, wet, and dry mount which obviously is not good because the transducer definitely needs to be in water to get your down imaging and or side imaging . so next i decided to get the transducer back in water . i wound up mounting the transducer right underneath the seat drain scupper hole with the wire pulled through the hole . i purchased the hobie kit for capping wires and quickly ran the wire back inside the kayak so very little wire is exposed on the deck or outside the kayak . the mounting tabs on the transducer were removed as cleanly as possible with a saw and filled smooth .and the transducer can be held in place with some silicon or the plumbers putty that does not dry .the transducer is not completely recessed but dragging it on sand will not hurt it . the humming bird transducer is a little bit bigger than an altoids mint tin . not small by any means . overall i am happy with the install. when loading in the back of pickup you have to be careful not to slam the transducer .i place a towel underneath as cushion or precaution . i am not sure how big your units transducer is or if this will work for you. the outback does have deep channels so your transducer may not be exposed very much if at all . hope this idea helps . i can send pics if needed for illustration.

TJones 03-28-2013 07:35 PM

it took me so long to type up
 
my response . but above post is what i did . :mad:

fishingfiend 03-29-2013 04:09 PM

When I had my outback, I opted for a wetmount to get accurate water temps. Ultimately, upgrading to the PA fixed my transducer mount issues. :D I'm sure Andy has a PA ready for you.

fishingfiend 03-29-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishNinjaY (Post 152013)
That looks like a nice option, and should work well on the Yak Attack rails as well. Also, I could move the whole set-up fairly easily to my other yak, and NOT have to buy a 2nd transducer.

HMMMMM.... :hmmmm2:

Now on a related question.. can someone help out a fishfinder noob about the difference between these Lowrance models? The guy at West Marine said the DSI has great bottom detail, but an effective range of only 200ft or so. And, that for ocean fishing, you can get past 200ft pretty quick. The 5X Elite, however, has less detail, but MUCH greater range. I also don't quite understand the 50/200 vs 83/200 transducer debate, and what the HDS offers.

Sorry to hijack a post.
I need a Lowrance tutorial! Much thanks as always folks! :cheers1:

It's not lowrance, but Doug Vehrenberg knows his stuff. Check out his sonar tutorial series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq74UJaNMSs

45user 03-29-2013 05:11 PM

I went to oex and Andy set me up with ram mount on the side of my ok trident 15
I will be out tomorrow am to test it out :)
45

MVC 03-30-2013 10:35 AM

I have had both the 50/200 and the 83/200. The 83/200 is a much smaller transducer. It may work thru the scupper hole

TJones 03-30-2013 01:30 PM

trans mount
 
3 Attachment(s)
i give hobie props for the wire capping kit . all different size adapters for different size wires . i wont be able to throw my yak down the flight of stairs at malibu anymore :mad: . but reading will be very good . hope this helps with ideas .


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