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guest who 06-14-2015 07:38 PM

I want to start yak fishing in the ocean
 
Hi guys, I'd like to start kayak fishing in the ocean. I tried it once along time ago on a normal ocean kayak and it was pretty fun; I caught a small cabezon. I need some help selecting a kayak, as I'm on a budget and not looking to drop +600 bucks on a kayak then buy a bunch of accessories. Here's what I've been considering:

1) used kayak on craigslist. It could be a super cheap basic one from a name brand, or a more expensive name brand with more stuff/angler model. Here are some examples I've dug up:
ocean kayak riverline, $125 but without paddle or seat
ocean kayak drifter, $300 with seat and paddle
hobie mirage without peddles, $500 with rod holders, new seat and paddle
Malibu X13 kayak, $400, factory 2nd without seat or paddle.
WEST MARINE Pompano 120 Angler, $375 with seat and paddle
Malibu X9 fish and dive, $500 with seat and paddle

2) New off brand kayak. Some examples:
sports authority sells a 10' lifetime tamarack angler for $200 on sale
Dicks also has a couple on sale right now, Future beach 10' cayman angler for $400, 10' Pelican Boost angler kayak for $250.

Which way should I go? I'd like to get something that I could be happy with long-term, and not something I'd want to upgrade after a few uses.

Thanks a lot guys!

FISH11 06-14-2015 08:05 PM

That is a very limited list to select from. If that's the only choices I would pick the X13 but at that price on a blem, only if they gave you a seat and paddle. If that's not an option, and only if you weigh less than 190lbs then I would get the Mini X fish & dive. Otherwise keep saving some more money until you have enough for a better choice. Good Luck

Cadillyak 06-14-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FISH11 (Post 230450)
That is a very limited list to select from. If that's the only choices I would pick the X13 but at that price on a blem, only if they gave you a seat and paddle. If that's not an option, and only if you weigh less than 190lbs then I would get the Mini X fish & dive. Otherwise keep saving some more money until you have enough for a better choice. Good Luck

I agree. Do it right the first time. No rush but that's easier said than done. Get around $700-$1000 and now your talking. If u can't wait, then someone on here can help, I can only try. Maybe the x13. How big of a person are you? What's important to u?? Speed, stability, deck Space ???....

guest who 06-14-2015 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadillyak (Post 230451)
I agree. Do it right the first time. No rush but that's easier said than done. Get around $700-$1000 and now your talking. If u can't wait, then someone on here can help, I can only try. Maybe the x13. How big of a person are you? What's important to u?? Speed, stability, deck Space ???....

Thanks for the help guys. I'm 6'4 but weigh 195. I'm not sure what's important since I'm too new to know the trade-offs. What makes the Malibu http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/5037669246.html better than say the Hobie? http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/spo/5071590002.html

FISH11 06-14-2015 09:14 PM

The X13 is designed for paddling and the Hobie (minus the mirage drive) is not. The X13 paddles faster then some larger kayaks but is narrower then most 14+foot kayaks so it trades off some stability. At 6'4" and 195lbs plus all the gear you need for ocean fishing, like bait tank, etc. I think even the X13 might be to short. For surf launching and landing a longer kayak works best, it also works better when the wind is blowing and it get like a washing machine out there. With your size I think you should look for an older Ocean Kayak Prowler or Malibu X factor or Stealth 14. Look for a kayak with a 31" to 33" width and over 14" in length. If you keep looking, they often show up on this site's for sale or trade threads. Better to buy once then be looking to change after only a short time of ocean fishing.

HELLSTER INC. 06-14-2015 09:25 PM

I'm 6'1 and 195 and loved my x13. With a loaded bait tank and gear never had a problem. Paddled great, and handled surf entry and exit very well. Just my 2 cents...

TJones 06-14-2015 10:41 PM

This was an important factor
 
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Originally Posted by guest who (Post 230456)
Thanks for the help guys. I'm 6'4 but weigh 195. I'm not sure what's important since I'm too new to know the trade-offs. What makes the Malibu http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/5037669246.html better than say the Hobie? http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/spo/5071590002.html

We don't want to see a post about you sinking the first time you get out because you went with Walmart special . Stick with the majors . Save more money , probably an X factor . Maybe O K , if you can find the proper model for .

guest who 06-14-2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FISH11 (Post 230457)
With your size I think you should look for an older Ocean Kayak Prowler or Malibu X factor or Stealth 14. Look for a kayak with a 31" to 33" width and over 14" in length. If you keep looking, they often show up on this site's for sale or trade threads. Better to buy once then be looking to change after only a short time of ocean fishing.

Ok, thanks for the tips. I found a prowler for 400 in LA so I'm going to investigate that alittle further. What do you think about the wilderness system kayaks?
There's a 12' http://slo.craigslist.org/spo/5068557869.html
and a 13.5' http://slo.craigslist.org/boa/5039242736.html

TJones 06-14-2015 10:45 PM

Don't buy the hobie
 
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Originally Posted by FISH11 (Post 230457)
The X13 is designed for paddling and the Hobie (minus the mirage drive) is not. The X13 paddles faster then some larger kayaks but is narrower then most 14+foot kayaks so it trades off some stability. At 6'4" and 195lbs plus all the gear you need for ocean fishing, like bait tank, etc. I think even the X13 might be to short. For surf launching and landing a longer kayak works best, it also works better when the wind is blowing and it get like a washing machine out there. With your size I think you should look for an older Ocean Kayak Prowler or Malibu X factor or Stealth 14. Look for a kayak with a 31" to 33" width and over 14" in length. If you keep looking, they often show up on this site's for sale or trade threads. Better to buy once then be looking to change after only a short time of ocean fishing.

Unless you can afford the drive present or future . These yaks were not disighned with paddling as the primary source of propulsion .

TJones 06-14-2015 10:54 PM

Those are top of line
 
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Originally Posted by guest who (Post 230460)
Ok, thanks for the tips. I found a prowler for 400 in LA so I'm going to investigate that alittle further. What do you think about the wilderness system kayaks?
There's a 12' http://slo.craigslist.org/spo/5068557869.html
and a 13.5' http://slo.craigslist.org/boa/5039242736.html

Probably the later . If your just getting out for quick sessions and gonna bring minimal gear , some of the smaller yaks will work for you . You are borderline on weight . If you were 20-40 lbs heavier , you would have an issue . Try to check manufactures web site to pull up specs for weight ratings before pulling the trigger . Take into account for gear , tank , meter , and batteries . You can add upwards of a hundred pounds .

TJones 06-14-2015 10:57 PM

That wilderness
 
Is a steal

tacmik 06-15-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by guest who (Post 230460)
Ok, thanks for the tips. I found a prowler for 400 in LA so I'm going to investigate that alittle further. What do you think about the wilderness system kayaks?
There's a 12' http://slo.craigslist.org/spo/5068557869.html
and a 13.5' http://slo.craigslist.org/boa/5039242736.html

Of the two, the ride is a better deal. 1.5ft longer and already decked out with a lot of what you will want to eventually get. Wilderness yak is a great yak but you will have to upgrade the seat before you even take it out. another 150 to 200 bucks for a decent seat. You won't last 2 hours with that plastic backrest it is showing.

Bert Vega 06-15-2015 03:05 PM

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AirborneYak 06-15-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bert Vega (Post 230526)

I would say pick that up too. that yak has pretty much everything to get you on the water now!

guest who 06-22-2015 03:33 PM

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I ended up buying a green ocean kayak 11' scrambler for $120 with seat and paddle. I know it's probably the equivalent of a beat up toyota corolla, but I figure I can play around with it and sell it for at least what I paid when I want to upgrade to something better. For now I need to get some safety gear so I can start using it in the Ventura harbor and the local kelp beds.

TJones 06-22-2015 04:17 PM

Congradulations
 
When your ready for surf launching we can hit up county . :kayak-surfer: . You can advance your learning curve very rapidly . Or we can try Leo for starters .😀feel free to pm.https://www.facebook.com/george.clou...4855863689444/
Here's a short video from last week. I am on left . About to change shorts .

dsutter775 06-22-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by guest who (Post 230446)
Hi guys, I'd like to start kayak fishing in the ocean. I tried it once along time ago on a normal ocean kayak and it was pretty fun; I caught a small cabezon. I need some help selecting a kayak, as I'm on a budget and not looking to drop +600 bucks on a kayak then buy a bunch of accessories. Here's what I've been considering:

1) used kayak on craigslist. It could be a super cheap basic one from a name brand, or a more expensive name brand with more stuff/angler model. Here are some examples I've dug up:
ocean kayak riverline, $125 but without paddle or seat
ocean kayak drifter, $300 with seat and paddle
hobie mirage without peddles, $500 with rod holders, new seat and paddle
Malibu X13 kayak, $400, factory 2nd without seat or paddle.
WEST MARINE Pompano 120 Angler, $375 with seat and paddle
Malibu X9 fish and dive, $500 with seat and paddle

2) New off brand kayak. Some examples:
sports authority sells a 10' lifetime tamarack angler for $200 on sale
Dicks also has a couple on sale right now, Future beach 10' cayman angler for $400, 10' Pelican Boost angler kayak for $250.

Which way should I go? I'd like to get something that I could be happy with long-term, and not something I'd want to upgrade after a few uses.

Thanks a lot guys!

Hit me up if your interested in a 2014 malibu x factor new for 500. 550 with seat and paddle. I could get you their info. I got mine and its the perfect fishing platform. Do the research on the x factor, they are pretty sweet kayaks in my opinion.

dsutter775 06-22-2015 05:12 PM

quality over price.
 
Dont go the cheap route. Get something of quality, youll thank yourself in the end.

captnblood34 06-22-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dsutter775 (Post 231189)
Dont go the cheap route. Get something of quality, youll thank yourself in the end.


This dude is right.

Local kelp? The local kelp you're going to find is Leo, or a bit North of that is a chunk on Deer Creek Rd. Beware of that spot, it drops off in a hurry creating some heavy rollers and beach pounders out of nowhere, making it difficult to launch and land.

That Xfactor is a DEAL!

Regards,

Jay

guest who 06-22-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 231180)
When your ready for surf launching we can hit up county . :kayak-surfer: . You can advance your learning curve very rapidly . Or we can try Leo for starters .😀feel free to pm.https://www.facebook.com/george.clou...4855863689444/
Here's a short video from last week. I am on left . About to change shorts .

Thanks man, I'll definitely take you up on the offer. West marine is having a sale in 3 days so I'm going to pickup a floating vhf and a life jacket.


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