i bought an 8 footer which is way to long . with 2 or 3 ounces of weight at eight foot length , fixed in a rod holder , that thing is swinging around like crazy. on top of a kayak and it is like a fulcrum. add 4 - 6 crazy macs and it is out of control. dedicated sibiki rod is a plus if you have the space. because you do not have a a bunch of hooks snagging everything. so i cut mine down , along with the sibiki . 3 or 4 macs is more than a handful . they sell a 6 footer like mentioned above , but i would agree that a little shorter is better. i will try to snap some pictures of mine.