got rid of the extreme and got a hobie revo-thanks Nate. took it out to the big bay, BIG dif in the handling, turns on a dime and not quite as stable as the X but it hauls ass!(and the sandies seem to like it too.) now it's time to try LJ. never occurred to me but whats the best way to land? paddle and peddle? rudder-no rudder? pray? any suggestions would be great!