Question from a prospective newb - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

01-23-2012, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Is that safe? I was basing this on the amount of weight that the racks state they should carry and the fact that he has a bad back.

I carry my Hobie PA on my roofracks as well. I have a Scion XB toaster box with Yakima racks. I find loading my PA at 135lbs 100000x easier than loading my 65lb Malibu stealth into some J racks. Once someone shows you how to do it, it becomes easy. Takes 2 minutes to get it on and off, all by myself and I also have a bad back.

Streak · 01-23-2012, 03:53 PM

Thanks again.
My back is not that screwed I just have a tendency for lower back pain and if I am seated in kayak position for many hours it may give me grief. Maybe Drake has a point though!

Stinky, I like the idea of cheap to start. I dont want to buy too wrong such that it puts me off totally. What length and type (sit on , sit in, width etc.) should I be looking for?

Also, in a non hobie, how do you guys handle the current and wind wanting to turn the boat while you are fishing? Remember I will be fly fishing so there will be even more time between positioning the boat and getting the cast off.

Amish Ed · 01-23-2012, 05:54 PM

One problem that might occur with a Hobie is that drive and the big hole sucking up your line. You'd have to paddle with any line on the deck. A regular paddle style yak will give you lots of room to strip your line without tangles.

I have a really bad back and have found some yaks better than others. I usually last about 5-6hrs before the pain is too much. If you start hurting you can always throw your legs over the side too. That makes a big difference to your body posture.

Streak · 01-23-2012, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amish Ed

One problem that might occur with a Hobie is that drive and the big hole sucking up your line. You'd have to paddle with any line on the deck. A regular paddle style yak will give you lots of room to strip your line without tangles.

I have a really bad back and have found some yaks better than others. I usually last about 5-6hrs before the pain is too much. If you start hurting you can always throw your legs over the side too. That makes a big difference to your body posture.

Many thanks Ed. Very good point about the line.
Now to find the one yak thats better than others on the back.
I think I will be in one of the Ocean Kayak models this week for a few hours. Lets see how it goes.

Podaker · 01-23-2012, 08:49 PM

for your back, spend a liitle extra for a good seat/backrest. oex has a good selection. as far as seasickness, west marine sells a product called "motion ease" it is all natural and safe for all ages. you can apply it even after you feel sick. i have seen it work on my friends. just put a few drops on your finger and rub it in behind your ears.

lowprofile · 01-23-2012, 10:45 PM

you could get a trailer....

there are many options for yaks. the smaller ones tend to get thrown about a bit and not good for open ocean or your stomach. 11ft would be the minimum id take out. your definately not going to be able to fish the structure in the harbor from a yak like a tube. they move quick and its a constant battle to stay on structure. the peddles would help alot here or wear some fins and sit sideways.

go check out OEX or any kayak shop really to see if anything pops out. they look alot different in person than on google images. you could even pick out a few and go demo them in the local bay/pond.

Mr. Adventure · 01-23-2012, 11:44 PM

I've heard of a remedy for sea sickness

battleborn · 01-24-2012, 06:21 PM

I went from pontoon boat with a casting platform to kayak pretty recently. You seem to be asking the same questions I asked myself. I love fly fishing and being able to stand up was mandatory. Several kayaks fit that bill. Then I also use gear tackle and see myself trolling at times you can troll with both paddle or peddle kayaks. Are you going to want to be able to multitask ie, change flies, lures, eat, etc while on the move then you will need hands free. Storage is important figure out how much gear you going to bring how you are going to store your rods. For me I was sold on the PA horizontal rod storage. While fishing fresh water I had my craft drift into the reeds or brush along the banks and was worried about a 9ft fly rod getting the tip busted off. I have taken it in the salt and fresh water. So in the end I got the PA and I do not regret it one bit. Yeah it was pricey but look for deals on Craigslist. I got mine at fast lane sailing in MB got a good deal. The real factor is going to be your pocket book. I had to wait a while for one to show up in my price range and persistence paid off. Good luck only you will know what yak is right for you!

xpresso2am · 03-26-2012, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Streak

Many thanks Ed. Very good point about the line.
Now to find the one yak thats better than others on the back.
I think I will be in one of the Ocean Kayak models this week for a few hours. Lets see how it goes.

Streak,

Bring your fly rod to the OEX tournament, I'll let you fish off my PA for a trial. I also fly fish off of it and it works great.

Any way you go, welcome to the world of kayak fishing! its a great bunch of people!

Streak · 03-26-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xpresso2am

Streak,

Bring your fly rod to the OEX tournament, I'll let you fish off my PA for a trial. I also fly fish off of it and it works great.

Any way you go, welcome to the world of kayak fishing! its a great bunch of people!

Thats very kind of you specially when you will busy with a tournament.
I have quite a hectic day that Saturday but it would make sense to pop out and see all the various kayaks.

Streak · 03-29-2012, 05:57 PM

Went for a test run today in an Outback and a Revo 11.
Outback was super stable with the narrower Revo being a little twitchy.

One thing I found in both as that if you are tall or have long legs (I am 6'1") the pedal adjustment maxes out before you can get your leg straight meaning that you are pedaling with a bent knee all the time. This is a big no no when cycling as it can result in quad fatigue and knee pain. I dont know if the same applies in the recumbent type position in the Hobies as I was not out long enough.

Would be interested to hear from the longer legged folks amongst us.!!

Mobsan · 03-30-2012, 07:06 AM

Ask your Doctor for a few Scopolamine patches and put them on several hours before you head out. They will dry your mouth and throat out a bit, so bring lots of water. We use them on ventilated patients that have tons of oral secretions and it works very well. Fortunately I have never had a problem with motion sickness so I can't speak firsthand as to their effectiveness. I have seen some guys on party boats wear them and they swear they work great. You just need a prescription. Good luck.

Hunters Pa · 03-30-2012, 08:09 AM

On the seasickness, I don't get it but my brother gets seasick in the bathtub. No meds worked for him. Couple years ago he bought a watch type devise that shocks the wrist - adjustable strength. Now he can go out on the water. He can turn it off until he starts getting queasey then turn it on. Can even share it with others turning green

Just another option to consider.

And welcome to the madness!

silverbullet · 03-25-2012, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake

I carry my Hobie PA on my roofracks as well. ...Takes 2 minutes to get it on and off, all by myself and I also have a bad back.

Same... carry mine on a hybrid Ford Escape....beach loads, sidewalk-down-the-stairs, and on the ramp... factory rails with Yakima crossbars (that's it).

I've hit 80mph with it on the roof and though it totally craps the gas mileage the racks held.

Check Drakes video on PA loading...it is simple. People still ask if they can give me a hand. It is much easier alone than with help.

01-23-2012, 05:54 PM	#3
Amish Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,906	One problem that might occur with a Hobie is that drive and the big hole sucking up your line. You'd have to paddle with any line on the deck. A regular paddle style yak will give you lots of room to strip your line without tangles. I have a really bad back and have found some yaks better than others. I usually last about 5-6hrs before the pain is too much. If you start hurting you can always throw your legs over the side too. That makes a big difference to your body posture. __________________ Amish Ed You can't catch it again if it's dead!

01-23-2012, 10:45 PM	#6
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,478	you could get a trailer.... there are many options for yaks. the smaller ones tend to get thrown about a bit and not good for open ocean or your stomach. 11ft would be the minimum id take out. your definately not going to be able to fish the structure in the harbor from a yak like a tube. they move quick and its a constant battle to stay on structure. the peddles would help alot here or wear some fins and sit sideways. go check out OEX or any kayak shop really to see if anything pops out. they look alot different in person than on google images. you could even pick out a few and go demo them in the local bay/pond. __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

03-30-2012, 07:06 AM	#12
Mobsan Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Carmel Valley Posts: 40	Scopolamine Patch Ask your Doctor for a few Scopolamine patches and put them on several hours before you head out. They will dry your mouth and throat out a bit, so bring lots of water. We use them on ventilated patients that have tons of oral secretions and it works very well. Fortunately I have never had a problem with motion sickness so I can't speak firsthand as to their effectiveness. I have seen some guys on party boats wear them and they swear they work great. You just need a prescription. Good luck.

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01-23-2012, 03:53 PM	#2
Streak Junior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 15	Thanks again. My back is not that screwed I just have a tendency for lower back pain and if I am seated in kayak position for many hours it may give me grief. Maybe Drake has a point though! Stinky, I like the idea of cheap to start. I dont want to buy too wrong such that it puts me off totally. What length and type (sit on , sit in, width etc.) should I be looking for? Also, in a non hobie, how do you guys handle the current and wind wanting to turn the boat while you are fishing? Remember I will be fly fishing so there will be even more time between positioning the boat and getting the cast off.

01-23-2012, 08:49 PM	#5
Podaker Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: la jolla shores Posts: 86	for your back, spend a liitle extra for a good seat/backrest. oex has a good selection. as far as seasickness, west marine sells a product called "motion ease" it is all natural and safe for all ages. you can apply it even after you feel sick. i have seen it work on my friends. just put a few drops on your finger and rub it in behind your ears.

01-23-2012, 11:44 PM	#7
Mr. Adventure Damn Hippy Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Riverside Posts: 311	I've heard of a remedy for sea sickness

01-24-2012, 06:21 PM	#8
battleborn Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 221	I went from pontoon boat with a casting platform to kayak pretty recently. You seem to be asking the same questions I asked myself. I love fly fishing and being able to stand up was mandatory. Several kayaks fit that bill. Then I also use gear tackle and see myself trolling at times you can troll with both paddle or peddle kayaks. Are you going to want to be able to multitask ie, change flies, lures, eat, etc while on the move then you will need hands free. Storage is important figure out how much gear you going to bring how you are going to store your rods. For me I was sold on the PA horizontal rod storage. While fishing fresh water I had my craft drift into the reeds or brush along the banks and was worried about a 9ft fly rod getting the tip busted off. I have taken it in the salt and fresh water. So in the end I got the PA and I do not regret it one bit. Yeah it was pricey but look for deals on Craigslist. I got mine at fast lane sailing in MB got a good deal. The real factor is going to be your pocket book. I had to wait a while for one to show up in my price range and persistence paid off. Good luck only you will know what yak is right for you!

03-29-2012, 05:57 PM	#11
Streak Junior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 15	Went for a test run today in an Outback and a Revo 11. Outback was super stable with the narrower Revo being a little twitchy. One thing I found in both as that if you are tall or have long legs (I am 6'1") the pedal adjustment maxes out before you can get your leg straight meaning that you are pedaling with a bent knee all the time. This is a big no no when cycling as it can result in quad fatigue and knee pain. I dont know if the same applies in the recumbent type position in the Hobies as I was not out long enough. Would be interested to hear from the longer legged folks amongst us.!!

03-30-2012, 08:09 AM	#13
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,361	On the seasickness, I don't get it but my brother gets seasick in the bathtub. No meds worked for him. Couple years ago he bought a watch type devise that shocks the wrist - adjustable strength. Now he can go out on the water. He can turn it off until he starts getting queasey then turn it on. Can even share it with others turning green Just another option to consider. And welcome to the madness!