The DEATH of a SPECIES - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

makobob · 10-09-2017, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaPT

I've started on my personal Farm to table solution, won't be fully enough, but I haven't bought veggies all summer.

The answer is out there. Smart people are working on feeding the 7 billion people.

https://goo.gl/GZCCHY

I guess so long as you don't mind beef, fish, or chicken from a lab, then no problems. Otherwise, better raise it yourself.

How would an AP system work out in Mako-ville?

We are in the middle of the desert on the SEA of Cortez but I am looking into it. Thanks.

socal.beach.bum · 10-09-2017, 11:41 AM

Harsh truth, there are just too many people on this planet. Plagues, famine, natural disasters are just ways for this planet to try and self regulate. Unfortunately the way things are, the human species probably has less than 1000 years left on this planet. Existinction isn't only for lower apex animals, we are on that list too, we just don't have the awareness to recognize it.

Baja_Traveler · 10-09-2017, 12:43 PM

Aquaponics would work great in Mako-Ville. Pick up a few IBC containers in San Felipe and make an easy conversion for the system. It would have to be placed under shade cloth so it all does not cook in the sun. If you used tilapia as your nitrogen source they could handle the slightly brackish well water, might have to see what the tolerance of the selected plants are though. It could only be pulled off if you lived there full time to take care of it though...

goldenglory18 · 10-09-2017, 01:49 PM

One of the clearest solutions to our Planets problems is leaving behind meat based diets.

It's been almost impossible for me to get on board with, but I know full and well that the best chance for our survival is to adopt a plant based diet....

Bajarick · 10-09-2017, 02:56 PM

Mako! I've lived in BCS for 11 years. Started coming down when the road opened in 1974. The only thing you, or I, or anyone without the clout of big bucks, is just say no. Probably does nothing, but it makes me feel better. I never eat shrimp....no way to take it in the Sea of Cortez without screwing up other things. I never buy fish at the market. If you don't know how it got there it was probably over harvested with nets locally. I've seen huge bites of tuna wiped out overnight here by netters. There is no enforcement. Same thing with restaurants. If you didn't bring the fish to them then where did they get it? Lots of restaurants get fish from the sportfishing crews. The ones that shoot the pics of 15 hanging fish. When I see those I just shake my head and am ashamed I fish. "Oh, we kept them because the crews families eat them"
I know, I'm ranting. But what used to be isn't any more. Still better than most places but.....
Chicken is nice in restaurants

monstahfish · 10-09-2017, 06:16 PM

One thing I'm in the process of is divesting from companies and banks that profit from environmentally unsound practices. For example, pepsi was destroying massive amounts of rainforest for palm oil. I signed a petition for them to stop and stopped buying products with palm oil. I cancelled my chase credit card and told them it was because they were funding oil pipelines. Citi is next. I'm looking for a new bank, probably a credit union as I've heard they can't invest your money without disclosing where it goes. If anyone has a good recommendation on that, let me know.
If all these people understand is greed, I'll take my money and hit em where it hurts. I'm also a monthly donor to the sierra club and life member with trout unlimited which has been very successful in lobbying for clean water.
Our backwards and corrupt politicians are another target. Don't vote for politicians who take money from polluters or try to block progress on clean energy. By the way, we keep going down this road, we're gonna end up like China with way too many people hopefully we can responsibly curb our population growth but I believe a pandemic is coming, if we don't kill each other first.

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10-09-2017, 11:41 AM	#2
socal.beach.bum Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Palos Verde, CA Posts: 636	Harsh truth, there are just too many people on this planet. Plagues, famine, natural disasters are just ways for this planet to try and self regulate. Unfortunately the way things are, the human species probably has less than 1000 years left on this planet. Existinction isn't only for lower apex animals, we are on that list too, we just don't have the awareness to recognize it.

10-09-2017, 12:43 PM	#3
Baja_Traveler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Table 17, Bay Park Fish Co. Posts: 943	Aquaponics would work great in Mako-Ville. Pick up a few IBC containers in San Felipe and make an easy conversion for the system. It would have to be placed under shade cloth so it all does not cook in the sun. If you used tilapia as your nitrogen source they could handle the slightly brackish well water, might have to see what the tolerance of the selected plants are though. It could only be pulled off if you lived there full time to take care of it though...

10-09-2017, 01:49 PM	#4
goldenglory18 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 861	One of the clearest solutions to our Planets problems is leaving behind meat based diets. It's been almost impossible for me to get on board with, but I know full and well that the best chance for our survival is to adopt a plant based diet....

10-09-2017, 02:56 PM	#5
Bajarick Junior Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: BCS Posts: 13	Mako! I've lived in BCS for 11 years. Started coming down when the road opened in 1974. The only thing you, or I, or anyone without the clout of big bucks, is just say no. Probably does nothing, but it makes me feel better. I never eat shrimp....no way to take it in the Sea of Cortez without screwing up other things. I never buy fish at the market. If you don't know how it got there it was probably over harvested with nets locally. I've seen huge bites of tuna wiped out overnight here by netters. There is no enforcement. Same thing with restaurants. If you didn't bring the fish to them then where did they get it? Lots of restaurants get fish from the sportfishing crews. The ones that shoot the pics of 15 hanging fish. When I see those I just shake my head and am ashamed I fish. "Oh, we kept them because the crews families eat them" I know, I'm ranting. But what used to be isn't any more. Still better than most places but..... Chicken is nice in restaurants

10-09-2017, 06:16 PM	#6
monstahfish Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 423	One thing I'm in the process of is divesting from companies and banks that profit from environmentally unsound practices. For example, pepsi was destroying massive amounts of rainforest for palm oil. I signed a petition for them to stop and stopped buying products with palm oil. I cancelled my chase credit card and told them it was because they were funding oil pipelines. Citi is next. I'm looking for a new bank, probably a credit union as I've heard they can't invest your money without disclosing where it goes. If anyone has a good recommendation on that, let me know. If all these people understand is greed, I'll take my money and hit em where it hurts. I'm also a monthly donor to the sierra club and life member with trout unlimited which has been very successful in lobbying for clean water. Our backwards and corrupt politicians are another target. Don't vote for politicians who take money from polluters or try to block progress on clean energy. By the way, we keep going down this road, we're gonna end up like China with way too many people hopefully we can responsibly curb our population growth but I believe a pandemic is coming, if we don't kill each other first.