Round 3 maps are up.

[tylerdurden]

Originally Posted by dgax65

For the enviros, this is all just a theoretical exercise. They have NO TANGIBLE STAKE in this process. If there were no closures, they would lose nothing. If they close the entire coast, they lose nothing. They literally have nothing tangible to lose. We are the only ones that stand to lose access. Any closure is a net gain for them. Bargaining usually involves a give and take process. You give up a little something of value and the other guy gives up a little something of his. Bargaining only works when both sides have to part with something of value. Regardless of the outcome of this deeply flawed process, they lose nothing. They can demand draconian closures, because, even if they have to back off a little on their proposals, they still have won.

This whole thing makes me sick.

exactly.

They "let us" have 50% of our fishing grounds and we are supposed to say thank you and give them a pat on the back becuase they didn't take 90% of the productive areas. The humiliation is we have to beg and complain just to get the 50% back.

We have to show up or they will take everything they can get, or everything we give up by not showing up.