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Old 06-01-2011, 06:37 PM   #1
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looks like this buddy paid the price

was he trying to give the other buddy a push?
@Bellcon - The buddy was me. I was obviously trying to get a good start for him, but the waves don't give a paddler to much wiggle room to gain speed.

I have launched in the surf many times in a sit-in kayak, but have never launched in a Hobie. The Hobie surprised me with how bad it can track without a rudder, and how poorly it starts up with a paddle. The waves here were the Hobie's worse nightmare. You can't really use your mirage drive because it's too shallow, and you can't use your rudder for the same reason. Any of the sleeker Ocean Kayaks or Wilderness Tarpons would not of had a problem.

I quickly learned why there aren't too many Malibu regulars that use a Hobie...
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:20 PM   #2
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The Hobie surprised me with how bad it can track without a rudder, and how poorly it starts up with a paddle. The waves here were the Hobie's worse nightmare. You can't really use your mirage drive because it's too shallow, and you can't use your rudder for the same reason
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:47 PM   #3
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X2 on what ^^^he^^^ said!!
I warned you guys that it can be a tuff launch especially at low tide. Gary had the same issues with his Hobie there, that's why he got rid of it. Nice drives but not the best surf performance. Gary hacked up his Altura and has now mounted a Hobie drive in it just for fishing there.

So I can't believe that you got away with posting a BU report without repercussions. If I put one up I'd have the usual suspects crawling up my ass, and crying bloody murder LOL

Some of the locals really don't want anyone talking about the fishing up there. The old locals only mentality.

Keep at it!!! Lick your wounds and get back out there. It's going to be rough all week but the weekend should be great conditions, and there are definitely some quality fish around.

Jim

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Old 06-02-2011, 07:47 AM   #4
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...I have launched in the surf many times in a sit-in kayak, but have never launched in a Hobie. The Hobie surprised me with how bad it can track without a rudder, and how poorly it starts up with a paddle. The waves here were the Hobie's worse nightmare. You can't really use your mirage drive because it's too shallow, and you can't use your rudder for the same reason. Any of the sleeker Ocean Kayaks or Wilderness Tarpons would not of had a problem.

I quickly learned why there aren't too many Malibu regulars that use a Hobie...

I used to have an outback, and the above is exactly why I don't have it anymore, but now have an Altura that I'm putting a Hobie drive into, I took it out the other day and had no such problems; paddled right through the surf; it appears that the Hobie hulls are made for stability not performance.

What did help with the outback was launching and landing with the pedals locked in and in the up position, taking it to knee deep water, hoping in, paddle until I'm was in water deep enough to pedal and deploying the rudder as soon as I could (generally I'd be sideways by this time), straighten her out and keep going. But once your pedaling you could also use the paddle as a rudder.
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