Catalina Trip End of July/Early August

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by wiredantz

Jim stop scaring the crew. Summertime should not be as unpredictable as spring

Sorry about that.

I'm not trying to scare anyone I'm just saying watch the weather and use your head. It's a great place to fish with good conditions

[StinkyMatt]

So let me get this straight, Jim is or is not going on this trip?

Unless I get a letter from God that the weather will be perfect, that there are no Great Whites in the area and that the ocean water will not be salty I am staying at home.

Yes, stuff can always happen, but you can't run your life like that. We will use our heads and not get into a stupid situation just for a stinkin fish.

Frank, I too have fished Catalina many times and agree that the protected side may be a better option for our group. It is simply more pleasant to kayak. I would not mind a primitive campsite on the quiet side.

Look into changing our spot to the backside (protected) The potty situation is a minimal factor. I will bring a GIANT trash bag you can use.


The main concern is the closed to fishing areas of the island. Anyone know a link to a map of the closed off areas?

[wiredantz]

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt

So let me get this straight, Jim is or is not going on this trip?

Unless I get a letter from God that the weather will be perfect, that there are no Great Whites in the area and that the ocean water will not be salty I am staying at home.

Yes, stuff can always happen, but you can't run your life like that. We will use our heads and not get into a stupid situation just for a stinkin fish.

Frank, I too have fished Catalina many times and agree that the protected side may be a better option for our group. It is simply more pleasant to kayak. I would not mind a primitive campsite on the quiet side.

Look into changing our spot to the backside (protected) The potty situation is a minimal factor. I will bring a GIANT trash bag you can use.


The main concern is the closed to fishing areas of the island. Anyone know a link to a map of the closed off areas?

well if we can get a better map of the protected areas i can find a primitive site and just bring a 5 gallon bucket with a trash bag....


The choices are mostly all of them but i think We should either stay at paradise or rippers? What do you think Matt



Here is a mini map of the kayakers map of the boat in camps with no poop toilets

http://www.kayakcatalinaisland.com/html/camping.html


Los Angeles County

• Abalone Cove State Marine Park
  JPEG | PDF | MPA Coordinates
• Point Fermin State Marine Park
  JPEG | PDF | MPA Coordinates
• Special Closure: Arrow Pt. to Lion Head Point (Catalina Island) Invertebrate Area
  JPEG | PDF | MPA Coordinates
• Catalina Marine Science Center State Marine Reserve
  JPEG | PDF | MPA Coordinates
• Farnsworth Bank State Marine Conservation Area
  JPEG | PDF | MPA Coordinates
• Lovers Cove (Catalina Island) State Marine Conservation Area
  JPEG | PDF | MPA Coordinates

The Circled areas are current no take zones but everything else is open until MLPA Steps in and takes everything away!!!

Los Angeles County	SPECIES PROHIBITED For Recreational Take	SPECIES ALLOWED For Recreational Take
Abalone Cove State Marine Park	All marine aquatic plants. All invertebrates.	Finfish by hook-and-line or spear
Point Fermin State Marine Park	All marine aquatic plants. Invertebrates EXCEPT lobster. Finfish EXCEPT rockfish (family Scorpaenidae), greenling, lingcod, cabezon, yellowtail, mackerel, bluefin tuna, kelp bass, spotted sand bass, barred sand bass, sargo, croaker, queenfish, California corbina, white seabass, opaleye, halfmoon, surfperch (family Embiotocidae), blacksmith, Pacific barracuda, California sheephead, Pacific bonito, California halibut, sole, turbot and sanddab.	Lobster. Rockfish (family Scorpaenidae), greenling, lingcod, cabezon, yellowtail, mackerel, bluefin tuna, kelp bass, spotted sand bass, barred sand bass, sargo, croaker, queenfish, California corbina, white seabass, opaleye, halfmoon, surfperch (family Embiotocidae), blacksmith, Pacific barracuda, California sheephead, Pacific bonito, California halibut, sole, turbot and sanddab by hook-and-line or spear fishing gear.
Arrow Pt. to Lions Head Pt. Invertebrate Area Special Closure (Catalina Island)	All invertebrates	Finfish. Marine aquatic plants.
Catalina Marine Science Center State Marine Reserve (Catalina Island)	All	None
Farnsworth Bank State Marine Conservation Area (Catalina Island)	Purple coral	Finfish. Marine aquatic plants. Invertebrates EXCEPT purple coral.
Lover's Cove State Marine Conservation Area (Catalina Island)	All	None

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by wiredantz

No running Cavemen? That bites!! Do they allow "Walking Cavemen? How about paddling Cavemen

[wiredantz]

Can anyone confirm the no take zones here.

[wiredantz]

So i have been thinking about this primitive camp sites. Are we suppose to kayak with the poop bag all the way back.


If so i volunteer matt. No better man to carry turd to the locals.

[Iceman]

the only no take zone reserve that I know of is just to the right (stage right) of Two Harbors and extends 100 yards off.

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt

So let me get this straight, Jim is or is not going on this trip?

Yeah unfortunately it's not for me. I'm not big on Ferries

It's really just not my thing for a bunch of reasons.....

For one thing the economics don't work. I can run over, fish the island, sleep in my skiff, and stay as long as I like for less money then going the flyer camping route. I've fished the island a lot but have actually only set foot on it a few times, because I'm always on some kind of private skiff or running a boat.

I also don't like reservations and set dates for fishing because you can't adapt to the weather or bite. That goes for party boats as well. Two thirds of the time you just end up going on the wrong day. I can take off usually when I want so I tend to go on weekdays on my own when there is a bite on.

Also Camping in paid campgrounds rubs me the wrong way. I grew up Solo open land camping or what is now called dispersal camping so I'm not big on paid camp grounds or the crowds you get at them. I've always camped to get away from the city, from other people, to get out on my own and relax. So big trips with lots of people to paid campgrounds doesn't appeal to me. I'll sometimes go with a date (girl) to camp in a paid campground if they want to, but that's about it.

I've considered paddling the channel in my sit-inside then doing the boat in camping areas on weekdays when no-one is there. Just paddling around and fishing a few days, and then crossing back, but never got around to it, and you need a really good weather window to do it.

This year I'm thinking about doing some combo Kayak/skiff trips where I take my skiff anchor up and then fish some of my favorite areas at Cat from my yak, but usually when I do Multi day trips to Cat I go alone, with just my skiff, anchor up in the little cove just east of arrowhead point, catch and release a bunch of fish and I'm the only person there. What can I say it works for me.

Jim