Lobster FMP - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

William Novotny · 04-03-2012, 11:22 AM

Popcorns in the microwave........

Saba Slayer · 04-03-2012, 11:55 AM

Sorry...I shouldn't have answered your negativity with some of my own.
Positive and constructive comments always make a better working relationship!
I must admit I get worn down by the lack of positive comments and the distrust and hate for the DFG!
Jim / Saba Slayer

Baja_Traveler · 04-03-2012, 12:02 PM

My great hope is that this will go a bit differently than the last process - though we dont even know what they are thinking about at this point, so it may not even apply to us (or it may) - we'll see.

I have a gut feeling it may not be a reduction in daily take for sport fishermen, but rather an upper size limit to let the big breeders keep on doing their thing. I could be wrong, but the science supports it...

robmandel · 04-05-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

I must admit I get worn down by the lack of positive comments and the distrust and hate for the DFG!
Jim / Saba Slayer

I'm with you here. I've met several DFG agents while fishing and always had positive experiences. I do believe while not "on our side" they are not at all on the blue shirt train. they were caught in the middle, knowing they could not and did not want to enforce the mlpa, and their union rep said as much. but also knowing they work for the state and must do as they're instructed.

as for saving PV, let's not fool ourselves. that was a deal done by the two business partners on the BRTF to save their interests at MDR. and that, and many other incidents and examples, are why you hear the vitriol towards these meetings. we know what happened during the mlpa, what a sham it was. our skepticism is justified. last time we were asked to be part of a process we were railroaded. we were used as cover for those fascists and none of us wants to go through that again.

and remember, the DFG is not the F&G commission. while we by and large hold the former in high regard, the latter, with one notable exception is a detestable group of sycopahnts, lackeys, and tools. not to mention morally corrupt political whores. but I'm probably being a little reserved in my judgement.

also be aware that a subtle and backhanded attempt is being made to co-opt the vision thing of the dfg. right now a bunch of econazis are busy making inroads into the shaping of future of resource management and use.

Saba Slayer · 04-05-2012, 01:04 PM

"also be aware that a subtle and backhanded attempt is being made to co-opt the vision thing of the dfg. right now a bunch of econazis are busy making inroads into the shaping of future of resource management and use."......

Even more reason to be a part of any plans that the DFG is crafting for our future...I admit, the problem is that no matter what plans may be made by a bunch of stakeholders the final tweak is always made by the 'Commission'!
Jim / Saba Slayer

04-03-2012, 11:22 AM	#1
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	Popcorns in the microwave........ __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

04-03-2012, 11:55 AM	#2
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,871	- Sorry...I shouldn't have answered your negativity with some of my own. Positive and constructive comments always make a better working relationship! I must admit I get worn down by the lack of positive comments and the distrust and hate for the DFG! Jim / Saba Slayer

04-05-2012, 01:04 PM	#5
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,871	Ready? "also be aware that a subtle and backhanded attempt is being made to co-opt the vision thing of the dfg. right now a bunch of econazis are busy making inroads into the shaping of future of resource management and use."...... Even more reason to be a part of any plans that the DFG is crafting for our future...I admit, the problem is that no matter what plans may be made by a bunch of stakeholders the final tweak is always made by the 'Commission'! Jim / Saba Slayer

04-03-2012, 12:02 PM	#3
Baja_Traveler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Table 17, Bay Park Fish Co. Posts: 943	My great hope is that this will go a bit differently than the last process - though we dont even know what they are thinking about at this point, so it may not even apply to us (or it may) - we'll see. I have a gut feeling it may not be a reduction in daily take for sport fishermen, but rather an upper size limit to let the big breeders keep on doing their thing. I could be wrong, but the science supports it...