Ideas for next contest - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

GregAndrew · 04-05-2012, 08:34 PM

I love stats, and for tha matter numbers in general. They can substantiate or discard lots of hypotheses. They can also provide interesting information, sometimes expected and sometimes not so much. I went through this years submittals and came up with slightly different numbers than Regor, but basically the same. I got 38 Halibut totalling 611 lbs, 42 YT totalling 1219 lbs and 22 WSB totalling 1140 lbs. These were the numbers I based my analysis on. The first fun fact that I got was that even though there were almost half as many WSB submitted, there were 11 competitors that submitted them. There were only 9 that submitted Butts or YT. Only 6 people submitted all 3 species over the year, and obviously only 1 in 1 month. And 8 people had at least 2 species submitted.

Now for the meat and potato numbers. YT were the most submitted fish (42), followed closely by Halibut (38) and distantly by WSB (22). The average points earned by a WSB was 41.18, a YT was 40.21 and a Butt was 36.34. The total points earned by all YT was 1689, all Butts was 1381 and all WSB 906. 42.5% of all points earned went to YT, 34.7% to Halibut and 22.8% to WSB. In this contest this year, YT reigned supreme and WSB was the step child.

If you raised the minimum weights to the suggested 20/30/40 here is what the results would have looked like. YT would have been the most submitted (18), folowed by WSB (11) and Halibut (9). The average points earned by a WSB would have been 50.27, a YT 45.72 and a Halibut 45.33. The total points earned by all YT would have been 823, all WSB 553 and all Butts 408. Raising YTs command to 46.1%, with WSB taking 31% and Halibut taking 22.9%.

A couple more fun facts: I believe that all YT and WSB were caught at LJ. Five of the nine 20 lbs+ Halibut were also caught at LJ/SD vs. all of the rest of the south coast (including Dana and Cabrillo).

Regor · 04-08-2012, 01:35 PM

More ideas to chew on:

Contest is per Species.

For each species of WSB/YT/Butt - One submittal per month.
Winner for each species is top points after 12 months
Must have picture/video, with weight & tape shot for pound points.
Must have picture/video, with tape shot for C&R (tape, measuring device, paddle with marking, etc)

WSB -
20lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 20
C&r if 40" or greater for 20 points

YT -
20lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 20
C&R if 35" or greater for 20 points

BUT -
10lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 10
C&R if 30" or greater for 10 points

Bass -
Monthly submittal is combined weight of 5 fish - 2 points per pound
C&R - 1 point for each legal bass up to 5 per month

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jorluivil · 04-08-2012, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regor

More ideas to chew on:

Contest is per Species.

For each species of WSB/YT/Butt - One submittal per month.
Winner for each species is top points after 12 months
Must have picture/video, with weight & tape shot for pound points.
Must have picture/video, with tape shot for C&R (tape, measuring device, paddle with marking, etc)

WSB -
20lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 20
C&r if 40" or greater for 20 points

YT -
20lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 20
C&R if 35" or greater for 20 points

BUT -
10lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 10
C&R if 30" or greater for 10 points

Bass -
Monthly submittal is combined weight of 5 fish - 2 points per pound
C&R - 1 point for each legal bass up to 5 per month

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I like

bus kid · 04-09-2012, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regor

More ideas to chew on:

Must have picture/video, with tape shot for C&R (tape, measuring device, paddle with marking, etc)

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Hay Jorge can I borrow your paddle?

jorluivil · 04-09-2012, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bus kid

Hay Jorge can I borrow your paddle?

No, but you can place your measuring sticker between

here and here

bus kid · 04-09-2012, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil

No, but you can place your measuring sticker between

here and here

your "

here and here

" is about 3/8th too short for my measuring sticker.

1837 post that cant be right? its like your going backwards or something

Billy V · 04-09-2012, 03:40 PM

Next years idea... Step it Up!

Only 40+ lb. Yellowtail, 50+ lb. WSB, and 35+ lb. Halibut, Qualify for Submission.

Go Big - Donkeys Only.
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Submit them all if you can qualify. Anyone can catch a lot of little fish, but it takes a skilled angler to land the donkey.

dorado50 · 04-09-2012, 08:34 PM

I suggest that there be no losers. Anyone that enters is a winner! This way is equally fair to all who participate.

HobieOneCanoebe · 06-25-2016, 07:34 PM

Would we only be counting legal bass or do shorties count for the monthly total? Given you don't catch 5 legal bass.

04-08-2012, 01:35 PM	#2
Regor Greg Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chula Vista, ca Posts: 509	More ideas to chew on: Contest is per Species. For each species of WSB/YT/Butt - One submittal per month. Winner for each species is top points after 12 months Must have picture/video, with weight & tape shot for pound points. Must have picture/video, with tape shot for C&R (tape, measuring device, paddle with marking, etc) WSB - 20lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 20 C&r if 40" or greater for 20 points YT - 20lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 20 C&R if 35" or greater for 20 points BUT - 10lb minumum for 20 points + 1 point for each lb over 10 C&R if 30" or greater for 10 points Bass - Monthly submittal is combined weight of 5 fish - 2 points per pound C&R - 1 point for each legal bass up to 5 per month . .

04-09-2012, 03:40 PM	#7
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Next years idea... Step it Up! Only 40+ lb. Yellowtail, 50+ lb. WSB, and 35+ lb. Halibut, Qualify for Submission. Go Big - Donkeys Only. ---------------------------------- Submit them all if you can qualify. Anyone can catch a lot of little fish, but it takes a skilled angler to land the donkey. __________________

06-25-2016, 07:34 PM	#9
HobieOneCanoebe Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Encinitas Posts: 200	bass Would we only be counting legal bass or do shorties count for the monthly total? Given you don't catch 5 legal bass.

04-05-2012, 08:34 PM	#1
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	I love stats, and for tha matter numbers in general. They can substantiate or discard lots of hypotheses. They can also provide interesting information, sometimes expected and sometimes not so much. I went through this years submittals and came up with slightly different numbers than Regor, but basically the same. I got 38 Halibut totalling 611 lbs, 42 YT totalling 1219 lbs and 22 WSB totalling 1140 lbs. These were the numbers I based my analysis on. The first fun fact that I got was that even though there were almost half as many WSB submitted, there were 11 competitors that submitted them. There were only 9 that submitted Butts or YT. Only 6 people submitted all 3 species over the year, and obviously only 1 in 1 month. And 8 people had at least 2 species submitted. Now for the meat and potato numbers. YT were the most submitted fish (42), followed closely by Halibut (38) and distantly by WSB (22). The average points earned by a WSB was 41.18, a YT was 40.21 and a Butt was 36.34. The total points earned by all YT was 1689, all Butts was 1381 and all WSB 906. 42.5% of all points earned went to YT, 34.7% to Halibut and 22.8% to WSB. In this contest this year, YT reigned supreme and WSB was the step child. If you raised the minimum weights to the suggested 20/30/40 here is what the results would have looked like. YT would have been the most submitted (18), folowed by WSB (11) and Halibut (9). The average points earned by a WSB would have been 50.27, a YT 45.72 and a Halibut 45.33. The total points earned by all YT would have been 823, all WSB 553 and all Butts 408. Raising YTs command to 46.1%, with WSB taking 31% and Halibut taking 22.9%. A couple more fun facts: I believe that all YT and WSB were caught at LJ. Five of the nine 20 lbs+ Halibut were also caught at LJ/SD vs. all of the rest of the south coast (including Dana and Cabrillo).

04-09-2012, 08:34 PM	#8
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	I suggest that there be no losers. Anyone that enters is a winner! This way is equally fair to all who participate.