LJ 3-17-07 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

aguachico · 03-18-2007, 07:04 AM

Four old timers launched yesterday. A combined total of 36 years of LJ fishing. We suck and should retire. We did have fun making bait, we stopped when we realized we drifted into the reserve while still catching bait.

The water is clear and the current is ripping south. This was the perfect scenario, but there's no fish yet.

I did see a yaker on a blue/white prowler lose a BIG WSB yesterday. He pumped the fish to the surface and his gaff wasn't ready. He reached for the gaff and fish turned on him. The length between the head and tail splashes had to be 5feet. The fish swam back down and came unbutton after another 5 minute battle. He said he had it on an iron. Tough fish.

WSB have soft bits in their mouth, this kid was strong... maybe too strong... maybe not. I'm a firm believer of 3-4 foot gaffs. A long gaff increases your range and is useful for snagging trash and baloons.

rtf · 03-18-2007, 09:06 AM

Wavster, I used to use nothing but Ande mono. But a couple of seasons ago I picked up what I guess was a bad batch. Both in 20 and 30lb. The line constantly snapped at the hook. I thought maybe it was my knots, but I switched to yozuri hybrid and never had another problem. Just my 2 cents...

DESTROYER · 03-18-2007, 09:13 AM

Art- Retire? I no you have some years left in that beard, it's not even gray yet

. I need to get out to La Jolla! I thought I could just concentrate on this Bass stuff this year, but there is just no way. I hope I will see you on the water very soon. It seems like I'm good luck for you. Everytime I see you on the water, you have fish! Go get em old man

TL-Matt

Dennis · 03-18-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by aguachico

The length between the head and tail splashes had to be 5feet.

That's a big Cbass. Art, maybe his drags were too tight... Ripping the hole in its mouth bigger. That's how I ALMOST lost mine (oh, so long ago)...

JrBasser · 03-18-2007, 10:23 AM

The Ande is the reason you're breaking off. Very brittle line. I fished it a lot, and started losing 10 pound bonito at the boat on the islands becuase they were breaking 40 pound mono that was spooled that morning. It also seems to have a little more stretch, so when yoyoing, i wasnt getting good hooksets and lost quite a few yellows on the iron cuz they werent hooked. Blue Izor is your friend, cherish it.

esdees · 03-18-2007, 10:49 AM

I've had the same 40# ande for three months now. I've had a number of good fights and the line has never snapped. I even hooked the bottom last week and had to wrap the line around my nalgene bottle so I could pull harder and the line still didn't snap.

-Patrick

aguachico · 03-18-2007, 01:35 PM

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Go get em old man

Hey Matt. Whatup?

The waterline on my eX is almost above the label!!!
Tipping the scales at 275# Even if I caught a fish I'd have to drain the bait tank to put it on the boat.

San Francisquito in JUNE!!!!

DESTROYER · 03-18-2007, 02:32 PM

Ouch...275#! I'm not far behind you at 240#. You better stay in that bad ass boat of yours. I think that Cobra FND is calling your name brotha

Moyer

nmbrinkman · 03-18-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JrBasser

The Ande is the reason you're breaking off. Very brittle line. I fished it a lot, and started losing 10 pound bonito at the boat on the islands becuase they were breaking 40 pound mono that was spooled that morning. It also seems to have a little more stretch, so when yoyoing, i wasnt getting good hooksets and lost quite a few yellows on the iron cuz they werent hooked. Blue Izor is your friend, cherish it.

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Originally Posted by esdees

I've had the same 40# ande for three months now. I've had a number of good fights and the line has never snapped. I even hooked the bottom last week and had to wrap the line around my nalgene bottle so I could pull harder and the line still didn't snap.

-Patrick

I concur with patrick/esdees. A decent yellow, hang ups on the bottom wrapped around the rubberized handle of pliers, hang ups in the kelp and countless bonies and cudas last week and 40 lb ande is still going strong. It's all in personal preference though.

Siebler · 03-18-2007, 07:00 PM

40lb ande is great line for throwing the jig. The problem with other line slike the Yo Zuri is that it has a whole lot of stretch. Becasue you dont set the hook of Jig fish the stretch often means lost fish.

I still love my izor but i dont hesitate to use ande on the jig stick. Fishing bait however its a whole other story, its izor or yo zuri 99% of the time.

Ryan The Sealion · 03-19-2007, 09:42 PM

^yozuri is shit period... ande, p-line, and izor are great, but NOTHING comes close to maxima ultragreen...

for me anyway..

wavster · 03-19-2007, 11:08 PM

I've read a lot about P-line. Are people referring to P-line flouro-carbon, or standard P-line?

03-18-2007, 07:00 PM	#10
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	40lb ande is great line for throwing the jig. The problem with other line slike the Yo Zuri is that it has a whole lot of stretch. Becasue you dont set the hook of Jig fish the stretch often means lost fish. I still love my izor but i dont hesitate to use ande on the jig stick. Fishing bait however its a whole other story, its izor or yo zuri 99% of the time. __________________ CJ Siebler

03-18-2007, 07:04 AM	#1
aguachico Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 719	Four old timers launched yesterday. A combined total of 36 years of LJ fishing. We suck and should retire. We did have fun making bait, we stopped when we realized we drifted into the reserve while still catching bait. The water is clear and the current is ripping south. This was the perfect scenario, but there's no fish yet. I did see a yaker on a blue/white prowler lose a BIG WSB yesterday. He pumped the fish to the surface and his gaff wasn't ready. He reached for the gaff and fish turned on him. The length between the head and tail splashes had to be 5feet. The fish swam back down and came unbutton after another 5 minute battle. He said he had it on an iron. Tough fish. WSB have soft bits in their mouth, this kid was strong... maybe too strong... maybe not. I'm a firm believer of 3-4 foot gaffs. A long gaff increases your range and is useful for snagging trash and baloons.

03-18-2007, 09:06 AM	#2
rtf Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5	Wavster, I used to use nothing but Ande mono. But a couple of seasons ago I picked up what I guess was a bad batch. Both in 20 and 30lb. The line constantly snapped at the hook. I thought maybe it was my knots, but I switched to yozuri hybrid and never had another problem. Just my 2 cents...

03-18-2007, 09:13 AM	#3
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	Art- Retire? I no you have some years left in that beard, it's not even gray yet . I need to get out to La Jolla! I thought I could just concentrate on this Bass stuff this year, but there is just no way. I hope I will see you on the water very soon. It seems like I'm good luck for you. Everytime I see you on the water, you have fish! Go get em old man TL-Matt

03-18-2007, 10:23 AM	#5
JrBasser Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 260	The Ande is the reason you're breaking off. Very brittle line. I fished it a lot, and started losing 10 pound bonito at the boat on the islands becuase they were breaking 40 pound mono that was spooled that morning. It also seems to have a little more stretch, so when yoyoing, i wasnt getting good hooksets and lost quite a few yellows on the iron cuz they werent hooked. Blue Izor is your friend, cherish it.

03-18-2007, 10:49 AM	#6
esdees The Good Clone Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Clairemont Posts: 520	I've had the same 40# ande for three months now. I've had a number of good fights and the line has never snapped. I even hooked the bottom last week and had to wrap the line around my nalgene bottle so I could pull harder and the line still didn't snap. -Patrick

03-18-2007, 02:32 PM	#8
DESTROYER Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "The Table" Posts: 976	Ouch...275#! I'm not far behind you at 240#. You better stay in that bad ass boat of yours. I think that Cobra FND is calling your name brotha Moyer

03-19-2007, 09:42 PM	#11
Ryan The Sealion Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 308	^yozuri is shit period... ande, p-line, and izor are great, but NOTHING comes close to maxima ultragreen... for me anyway..

03-19-2007, 11:08 PM	#12
wavster Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Encinitas Posts: 562	I've read a lot about P-line. Are people referring to P-line flouro-carbon, or standard P-line?