braid vs mono - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Jimmyz123 · 05-29-2012, 11:06 AM

I see nothing wrong with your approach, but I would use Flouro, about 20# seagar works best for me, as your line from the swivel. Do you use a sliding wieght above the swivel? Also are you using bait hook or circle hooks? Also how big of baits are you using and are you using a stinger hook?

Most of the Hali hunters I know are using either a circle hook or bait hook with a stinger attached. Now the stinger does not have to be a treble hook, you can have a double bait hook or circle hook. Remember with circle hooks you don't swing to set the hook, you just reel and the hook does the rest.

Also with halibut you need to be patient, really make sure they have the bait before you start to pull on them.

Are they breaking off, or are you seeing your bait getting raked?

slobslayer · 05-29-2012, 11:37 AM

I've been doing a lot of experiementing lately to try to improve my game. I use PLine fluorcarbon coated which works well for me and saves some coin. I never had any good experiences with circle hooks. I use a single bait hook for sardines and run a trap rig for anything over say 6 or 7 inches but I used treble hooks. I'll try the bait hook trap rig but how do you hook it to the bait? I'm connecting and hooking fish but am losing them when bringing them in. I know halibut can be difficult but I've never lost so many fish.

slobslayer · 05-29-2012, 11:38 AM

Also im using a triple swivel with about 2-5 ounces of led

JeffB · 05-29-2012, 11:53 AM

Don't waste your money on that flourocarbon coated P-Line. It's garbage. It does not last very long, and when it gets stretched out, it stress the line really bad. I would go either 30lb mono or bigger for your leader or straight flourocarbon. You have to ask yourself if saving a couple of bucks is worth risking a big barn door? When I fish for halibut I always give them an extra sec to eat the bait. 50% of the time for me is that they miss it or let it go and I immediately drop back down and then I hook back up. Rather than shipping at it on the first bite, they inhale it the second time around

Jimmyz123 · 05-29-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffB

Don't waste your money on that flourocarbon coated P-Line. It's garbage. It does not last very long, and when it gets stretched out, it stress the line really bad. I would go either 30lb mono or bigger for your evader or straight flourocarbon. You have to ask yourself if saving a couple of bucks is worth risking a big barn door? When I fish for halibut I always give them an extra sec to eat the bait. 50% of the time for me is that they miss it or let it go and I just drop back down and then I hook back up. Rather than shipping at it on the first bite, the inhale it the second time around

I agree with this post. As for using a bait hook for the trap, just stick it through like you would any other hook. I know someone on another fish board that has caught more Halibut in San Diego County in that last 5 years than anyone. He's always posting up legal sized fish and many of them going over 35" in length. I learned a lot from him.

Don't be afraid to use heavy line on the Halibuts if the bait is right they won't care about the line. Be patient with setting the hooks, give them some time to run with it a little. Look into the sliding weight setup. It works well too.

StinkyMatt · 05-29-2012, 01:44 PM

Some guy that knows of a guy who knows a guy that catches halis told me:

Spectra ok

Which flouro or mono, who cares......fisherman choice

He uses circle hooks with increased hook up since he went to them.

Usually fishes a treble stinger

Fishes with reels IN gear. No waiting, if the Hali hit it , it is likely hooked.

No gut hooked fish by letting them "run" with it.

Enjoy and don't over think it. Its just fishing.

05-29-2012, 11:06 AM	#1
Jimmyz123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,385	I see nothing wrong with your approach, but I would use Flouro, about 20# seagar works best for me, as your line from the swivel. Do you use a sliding wieght above the swivel? Also are you using bait hook or circle hooks? Also how big of baits are you using and are you using a stinger hook? Most of the Hali hunters I know are using either a circle hook or bait hook with a stinger attached. Now the stinger does not have to be a treble hook, you can have a double bait hook or circle hook. Remember with circle hooks you don't swing to set the hook, you just reel and the hook does the rest. Also with halibut you need to be patient, really make sure they have the bait before you start to pull on them. Are they breaking off, or are you seeing your bait getting raked? __________________ No better time than being on the water, God Bless, JimmyZ

05-29-2012, 11:53 AM	#4
JeffB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: La Jolla Posts: 1,216	Don't waste your money on that flourocarbon coated P-Line. It's garbage. It does not last very long, and when it gets stretched out, it stress the line really bad. I would go either 30lb mono or bigger for your leader or straight flourocarbon. You have to ask yourself if saving a couple of bucks is worth risking a big barn door? When I fish for halibut I always give them an extra sec to eat the bait. 50% of the time for me is that they miss it or let it go and I immediately drop back down and then I hook back up. Rather than shipping at it on the first bite, they inhale it the second time around __________________ If you're looking for me I'm Last edited by JeffB; 05-29-2012 at 01:43 PM.

05-29-2012, 11:37 AM	#2
slobslayer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Santee Posts: 384	I've been doing a lot of experiementing lately to try to improve my game. I use PLine fluorcarbon coated which works well for me and saves some coin. I never had any good experiences with circle hooks. I use a single bait hook for sardines and run a trap rig for anything over say 6 or 7 inches but I used treble hooks. I'll try the bait hook trap rig but how do you hook it to the bait? I'm connecting and hooking fish but am losing them when bringing them in. I know halibut can be difficult but I've never lost so many fish.

05-29-2012, 11:38 AM	#3
slobslayer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Santee Posts: 384	Also im using a triple swivel with about 2-5 ounces of led

05-29-2012, 01:44 PM	#6
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Some guy that knows of a guy who knows a guy that catches halis told me: Spectra ok Which flouro or mono, who cares......fisherman choice He uses circle hooks with increased hook up since he went to them. Usually fishes a treble stinger Fishes with reels IN gear. No waiting, if the Hali hit it , it is likely hooked. No gut hooked fish by letting them "run" with it. Enjoy and don't over think it. Its just fishing.