building my very first bait tank need help - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tehburninator · 09-25-2012, 10:20 AM

i dont know why, but ever since i can remember... i hate ordering stuff online.... im one of those people who prefer to buy items with the items in my hand.... at time of purchase....... i'm an odd one...... i know

but what rating should i be looking for in a battery? and how does the ah rating affect pump operation and battery life?

im pretty mechanically inclined... just didnt pay too much attention when it came to electronics specs

min-va · 09-25-2012, 10:45 AM

Ah* = "amp hour", for example you can run a 1 amp pump for 1 hour.....

A fully charged 12ah battery should last you for a fully day of fishing without problem.

V = energy output - 6v should be good enough for your pump.

Maybe i am wrong...but you should do more research if not too sure.

One 12v 12ah battery should be morn than enough if you want to run your FF as well, but it will be a bit heavy.

Siebler · 09-25-2012, 11:16 AM

I think you may want to up your outlet size. Water coming in is pressurized, exhaust is not. It is going to overfill the tank most likely.

As for batteries, We stock 6v 12ah for use in our tanks. No traffic now that its winter unless you hit it at prime time on Sat/Sun. Rest of week only cars in the lot are employees most the time.

tehburninator · 09-25-2012, 12:21 PM

thanks for the advice ^^^ was gonna head to frys, but you guys at oex have the best choice of battery with 12ah for the 6v. so i'll try and stop by there after work. here a couple of pictures... they are taking a while to load, but i have been reading and thinking about it, im either going to upgrade the size of the hole for the drain, or am going to drill some 1/4 holes above it where i would want the water to drain out if it overloads. the bucket

thanks a bunch for the help so far. im getting the itch to put it on the water soon

p.s oh yeah, i forgot to mention, im using 3/4 automotive heater hose for the hoses and since they dont fit perfect into the coupings. i wraped some electrical tape around the hose to give it a better fit, it seems to go in very very very snug and didnt come off too easily either. if this work, i'll keep it that way for the purpose of transportation, but if not, then i'll find a way to permanentally put the hoses on.

tehburninator · 09-25-2012, 12:32 PM

heres a few more

grey zone · 09-25-2012, 01:05 PM

You should do fine with that set-up. Make sure you have some type of lid because bait will jump out. You pump will draw more amps than your fish finder/GPS so use seperate batteries and having them in sealed containers is very smart. Rather than using a single overflow hose you can just drill 1/4" holes at the level you want your bucket to fill to. What you have done should work fine and if it does not do the job drill more holes. The rod holders which I attached to the bait tank I made out of a file box are good for holding rods that are not in use but too weak to be used while fishing. I also recommend putting a drain plug at the bottom of the tank so when you get back to the beach you can drain the water without removing your tank. I always keep my tank full when going back in because the weight in the stern helps keep the bow up.

tehburninator · 09-25-2012, 02:07 PM

weigh the stern when coming back into the surf for added stability im assuming, i'll have to try that when i get to the surf.

got a lid, just gotta cut it up some, but thanks!!!

i have two flush mount pole holders that angle slightly out, i think those two will be what i use to fish with. and the other 4 are mainly for storage, minus the back two. i was hoping those would work out for trolling if i ever intend to do so. but i'll probably have to go back and reinforce that, figured with the weight of the water in the tank should keep my crate in place in case anything nasty decides to yank on me.

gonna put some holes in the bucket above the drain hole tonight for added drainage

and gonna try and pick up the battery from OEX after work.

as far as the drain on the bottom, i can pull the hose out of the fitting to drain it so i dont have to completly take the bucket out.

what else you guys got hit me!

GregAndrew · 09-25-2012, 02:11 PM

If you are going to have your inlet at the bottom, you better use a one-way valve in-line. If not, should you lose power your tank will drain out. Make sure all your components are sturdy enough to take a spill and survive if you plan on doing any surf launching.

tehburninator · 09-25-2012, 02:18 PM

ok doke.

so far ive been fishing the bay with the practice of leashing all my gear up anytime i launch or land. no bungies though, i just use rope. may upgrade later on but seems to be ok for me right now.

i had that in mind so my bait tank im putting together with the intention of being able to take any hanging parts (hoses pumps) off and put them away either in the tank or in the hull. which ever is easiest at the time.

i'll go look for a one way valve, where did you purchase yours?

btw, you guys are the shit =) thanks a bunch for all the advice so far

09-25-2012, 10:45 AM	#2
min-va Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hacienda Heights Posts: 216	Ah* = "amp hour", for example you can run a 1 amp pump for 1 hour..... A fully charged 12ah battery should last you for a fully day of fishing without problem. V = energy output - 6v should be good enough for your pump. Maybe i am wrong...but you should do more research if not too sure. One 12v 12ah battery should be morn than enough if you want to run your FF as well, but it will be a bit heavy. __________________ www.vapercompany.com

09-25-2012, 11:16 AM	#3
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	I think you may want to up your outlet size. Water coming in is pressurized, exhaust is not. It is going to overfill the tank most likely. As for batteries, We stock 6v 12ah for use in our tanks. No traffic now that its winter unless you hit it at prime time on Sat/Sun. Rest of week only cars in the lot are employees most the time. __________________ CJ Siebler

09-25-2012, 10:20 AM	#1
tehburninator Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 96	i dont know why, but ever since i can remember... i hate ordering stuff online.... im one of those people who prefer to buy items with the items in my hand.... at time of purchase....... i'm an odd one...... i know but what rating should i be looking for in a battery? and how does the ah rating affect pump operation and battery life? im pretty mechanically inclined... just didnt pay too much attention when it came to electronics specs

09-25-2012, 01:05 PM	#6
grey zone Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 158	You should do fine with that set-up. Make sure you have some type of lid because bait will jump out. You pump will draw more amps than your fish finder/GPS so use seperate batteries and having them in sealed containers is very smart. Rather than using a single overflow hose you can just drill 1/4" holes at the level you want your bucket to fill to. What you have done should work fine and if it does not do the job drill more holes. The rod holders which I attached to the bait tank I made out of a file box are good for holding rods that are not in use but too weak to be used while fishing. I also recommend putting a drain plug at the bottom of the tank so when you get back to the beach you can drain the water without removing your tank. I always keep my tank full when going back in because the weight in the stern helps keep the bow up.

09-25-2012, 02:07 PM	#7
tehburninator Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 96	weigh the stern when coming back into the surf for added stability im assuming, i'll have to try that when i get to the surf. got a lid, just gotta cut it up some, but thanks!!! i have two flush mount pole holders that angle slightly out, i think those two will be what i use to fish with. and the other 4 are mainly for storage, minus the back two. i was hoping those would work out for trolling if i ever intend to do so. but i'll probably have to go back and reinforce that, figured with the weight of the water in the tank should keep my crate in place in case anything nasty decides to yank on me. gonna put some holes in the bucket above the drain hole tonight for added drainage and gonna try and pick up the battery from OEX after work. as far as the drain on the bottom, i can pull the hose out of the fitting to drain it so i dont have to completly take the bucket out. what else you guys got hit me!

09-25-2012, 02:11 PM	#8
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	If you are going to have your inlet at the bottom, you better use a one-way valve in-line. If not, should you lose power your tank will drain out. Make sure all your components are sturdy enough to take a spill and survive if you plan on doing any surf launching.

09-25-2012, 02:18 PM	#9
tehburninator Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 96	ok doke. so far ive been fishing the bay with the practice of leashing all my gear up anytime i launch or land. no bungies though, i just use rope. may upgrade later on but seems to be ok for me right now. i had that in mind so my bait tank im putting together with the intention of being able to take any hanging parts (hoses pumps) off and put them away either in the tank or in the hull. which ever is easiest at the time. i'll go look for a one way valve, where did you purchase yours? btw, you guys are the shit =) thanks a bunch for all the advice so far