Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge  

Go Back   Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge > Kayak Fishing Forum - Message Board > General Kayak Fishing Discussion
Home Forum Online Store Information LJ Webcam Gallery Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-12-2012, 08:56 PM   #1
jorluivil
Senior Member
 
jorluivil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by blitzburgh View Post
I looked at these before and was going to get one and then I read this on the DFG website;

"VENTING: A sharp needle or steel cannula is used to puncture a fish’s inflated swim bladder.
The California Department of Fish and Game does not currently encourage venting as it can cause
serious injury to fish and angler
. You may accidentally puncture the wrong organ and/or introduce
infection. Even when done properly, venting damages a fish’s swim bladder."

IDK

You don't puncture the swim bladder, as a matter of fact the needle never doesn't come close to the fishes mouth.


http://www.ventafish.com/instructions.idc


Best practices in fish venting call for venting the fish as quickly as possible while handling the fish minimally.
STEP 1: Hold the fish gently but firmly on its side. Place your VENTAFISH™ tool with the 45 degree front end approximately 1-2 inches from the base of the pectoral fin.
STEP 2: After removing the saftey cap, slowly depress the plunger. The needle will penetrate the fish as you depress the plunger. Your VENTAFISH™ is designed so that it will not lock into place. Only depress the plunger enough to release the gases. The sound of the escaping air and deflation will be noticeable.
STEP 3: Return the vented fish to the water as soon as possible. If the fish is slow to respond, try reviving it by holding it with its head pointed downward while moving it back and forth to restore the circulation of water over the gills. Continue until the fish i
__________________


www.facebook.com/Teamsewer
jorluivil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 09:16 PM   #2
MrPatrick
Senior Member
 
MrPatrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Waiting to launch
Posts: 1,381
Bladder

If you are referring to the organ sticking out of a baro-traumatized fishes mouth, that is its stomach. Pushed out of the body by the expanded swim bladder.
MrPatrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 09:42 PM   #3
jorluivil
Senior Member
 
jorluivil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPatrick View Post
If you are referring to the organ sticking out of a baro-traumatized fishes mouth, that is its stomach. Pushed out of the body by the expanded swim bladder.



">
__________________


www.facebook.com/Teamsewer
jorluivil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 09:47 PM   #4
jorluivil
Senior Member
 
jorluivil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,856
I could be wrong but I believe what they don't want you to do is puncture the stomach with any sort of tool which is very common. The venting tool goes into the fishes stomach area but as far as I know it never touches/punctures the stomach.
__________________


www.facebook.com/Teamsewer
jorluivil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 07:38 AM   #5
blitzburgh
Senior Member
 
blitzburgh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Menifee
Posts: 2,509
Quote:
Originally Posted by jorluivil View Post
I could be wrong but I believe what they don't want you to do is puncture the stomach with any sort of tool which is very common. The venting tool goes into the fishes stomach area but as far as I know it never touches/punctures the stomach.
Let us know how well it works for you. I for one would like the ability to send back the small fries in good health.
__________________
”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe
blitzburgh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 08:24 AM   #6
dos ballenas
Vampyroteuthis infernalis
 
dos ballenas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 585
Quote:
Originally Posted by jorluivil View Post
I could be wrong but I believe what they don't want you to do is puncture the stomach with any sort of tool which is very common. The venting tool goes into the fishes stomach area but as far as I know it never touches/punctures the stomach.
Well, you're obviously puncturing something!!!! Which is never good... seriously... there are easier more effective ways to let rockfish go. But yes thanks for bring this topic up....

There are SEVERAL new devices on the market which allow you to release undesired rock fish back at depth with OUT puncturing them (where ever that might be). These devices are simple in concept and simple to use.

The most obvious problem with barotrauma (what happens to fish when they are reeled from deep water to the surface) is most fish can't swim back to deeper water on their own. If they could they would recove for the most parts on their own. But as it turns out all the air that expanded from their swim bladders makes it hard for them to swim down. It seems that all fish need sometimes is a little help.

Recent studies have shown that if you send fish back down to deep water and let them go they often survive. The problem is, how do you release fish in deep water (where they LIVE)?

There are several products available that can successfully release fish at depth.

http://www.saltwatersportsman.com/te...ps/seaqualizer

http://theseaqualizer.com/SeaQualize...e/Welcome.html

http://www.ecoleeser.com/

These devices are recommended over the old fashioned puncture method. I saw them ALL at the Fred Hall show and they ALL work...

or if you can't buy those products you can simply crush a barb on one of your hooks, send the the fish down, and then jerk the rod tip up thereby releasing the fish at depth..... all on your own.


This link provided information on a study conducted last year by scientist in La Jolla.

http://swfsc.noaa.gov/barotrauma/

Click on the link and watch the video!
__________________
____________________________________________


Last edited by dos ballenas; 11-13-2012 at 08:39 AM.
dos ballenas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 08:28 AM   #7
kareem korn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: C-bad
Posts: 431
A milk crate with 100' of rope works better.
kareem korn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 08:35 AM   #8
dos ballenas
Vampyroteuthis infernalis
 
dos ballenas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 585
Quote:
Originally Posted by kareem korn View Post
A milk crate with 100' of rope works better.
__________________
____________________________________________

dos ballenas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 08:36 AM   #9
TJones
Senior Member
 
TJones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,526
i like the the milk crate idea ( or weighting the fish back down)

i have to give credit. way to go for trying. atleast someone is thinking about conservation and making an attempt , right or wrong.
TJones is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 2002 Big Water's Edge. All rights reserved.