Jackson Cuda 14?

[Siebler]

Iw ont be making Bass and Brew and have no way to haul kayaks on my truck anyways. If any of our other guys are going ill see if we can get them up otherwise OEX will likely host a night tournament in June where folks can come Demo all the new boats we have now.

[scotty1369]

Originally Posted by Siebler

Iw ont be making Bass and Brew and have no way to haul kayaks on my truck anyways. If any of our other guys are going ill see if we can get them up otherwise OEX will likely host a night tournament in June where folks can come Demo all the new boats we have now.

Was that you helping me at OEX today? I was the ginger kid.

[Siebler]

Originally Posted by scotty1369

Was that you helping me at OEX today? I was the ginger kid.

If it was before about 130 yes after that was probably Grant.

[dorado50]

Out of curiosity what is a "pro staffer"?. What is the significance?. How does one become one and why?.

[Siebler]

Originally Posted by dorado50

Out of curiosity what is a "pro staffer"?. What is the significance?. How does one become one and why?.

Dave I think I kind of answered your question above before even seeing it. Pro Staff means different things to different companies but for the most part the job is to promote brand awareness. It is often overlooked by many that Pro Staffers should be promoting the sport as a whole as well as the brand though.

How you become Pro Staff depends on the person and the company. For some it is a matter of them hitting up the company looking for opportunity. For others the Company approaches them and view the member as an asset to the industry and wants that relationship. For me it has gone both ways. For Izorline I was told to inquire by another staffer and friend. For my previous Rod Sponsor I believed in the product and inquired then was added.

With Wilderness I was lucky enough that the Rep at the time wanted me as a staff member. Those relationships are the best as both parties have a mutual respect and work together better. I am very happy to be a part of Confluence and even after I make my move to Idaho I have already been approached and told they want me to remain as part of the team despite not being in a store.

[jbaker]

Originally Posted by dorado50

Out of curiosity what is a "pro staffer"?. What is the significance?. How does one become one and why?.

Pro Staff is short for Promotional Staff. Typically you get a deal on a kayak in return for promoting the brand at different events and in your everyday life. Some require you to write articles, hold seminars, enter events, what ever the deal you make is. personally I love the Cuda 14, I brought one down to SD last year and paddled it around, even took it by OEX to show it off.

[dorado50]

My questions were answered in detail...thanks guys!. Hmmm..will have to check out those Jacksons

[Siebler]

We have Demo's of the Mokens, all Malibu, Ocean Kayak, Wilderness, Native, and soon Jacksons at OEX Mission Bay. If you want to compare them before you buy come down and paddle them. You will learn more from 5 minutes in each boat than you will learn form reading everybody's recommendations. A lot of this is because everybody has their own views on how things should be done and also they have their own needs in the kayaks.

Just because a Pro Staff member (or just another kayak angler) says a boat is the best doesnt mean it is the best for you. While I love my Tarpon 160 I guarantee that 90% of the people on this board would hate it. You really have to make decisions based on your own size, stability, wants, needs, etc.

Ive been on the Wilderness Systems National Pro Staff for over 5 years but by all means there are times when people walk into the store and the boat that fits them best isnt made by Wilderness and I am not going to push the brand on them if this is the case.

The job of Pro Staffs is not just to push/promote their brand but also to promote the sport and putting somebody in the wrong boat for them is going to leave a bad taste in their mouth for the dealer, the brand, and possibly the sport as a whole. In addition this only hurts the staffer credibility.

With this said, The Cuda and the Moken are very similar. I personally find the Jackson to be more stable (however even the Moken is far more stable than what I need) but the Moken paddles better in rougher conditions. These baots are very similar though and I recommend you testing both out, thats why we have demos. When you Demo these I would also give a few other boats a shot. Which boats these are is based on your likes/dislikes of the previous models paddled. Usually we will be able to pick a boat for you within 3-4 models based on what you tell me about how the previous one felt to you.

[PE.rider]

Originally Posted by Siebler

We have Demo's of the Mokens, all Malibu, Ocean Kayak, Wilderness, Native, and soon Jacksons at OEX Mission Bay. If you want to compare them before you buy come down and paddle them. You will learn more from 5 minutes in each boat than you will learn form reading everybody's recommendations. A lot of this is because everybody has their own views on how things should be done and also they have their own needs in the kayaks.

Just because a Pro Staff member (or just another kayak angler) says a boat is the best doesnt mean it is the best for you. While I love my Tarpon 160 I guarantee that 90% of the people on this board would hate it. You really have to make decisions based on your own size, stability, wants, needs, etc.

Ive been on the Wilderness Systems National Pro Staff for over 5 years but by all means there are times when people walk into the store and the boat that fits them best isnt made by Wilderness and I am not going to push the brand on them if this is the case.

The job of Pro Staffs is not just to push/promote their brand but also to promote the sport and putting somebody in the wrong boat for them is going to leave a bad taste in their mouth for the dealer, the brand, and possibly the sport as a whole. In addition this only hurts the staffer credibility.

With this said, The Cuda and the Moken are very similar. I personally find the Jackson to be more stable (however even the Moken is far more stable than what I need) but the Moken paddles better in rougher conditions. These baots are very similar though and I recommend you testing both out, thats why we have demos. When you Demo these I would also give a few other boats a shot. Which boats these are is based on your likes/dislikes of the previous models paddled. Usually we will be able to pick a boat for you within 3-4 models based on what you tell me about how the previous one felt to you.

Yes. It seems that I definitely have to arrange a trip down to OEX Mission Bay to try the units out, and I'm sure I'll eventually make a decision and purchase one that same day. It is already a foregone conclusion that my business will be conducted with OEX for all the obvious reasons.

I really liked the articles that were written on the 'Information' section of this website, and would like to see more of the information collated/organized there rather than in the message threads. Fish porn, conditions, catch info and all-around general telling of fish tales should make up the majority of the messages. It would certainly save you some storage space on the web server .

my 2 cents...

[JarrodMc]

Siebler is right, 100%. Give the boats you're looking at a try and maybe a few more so you can truly be happy with your investment. If you want to try my Cuda before OEX gets theirs or if you're in my area (N. SD county) give me a buzz and I'll meet you on at the water. OEX is a great shop and the whole staff really knows what they're talking about. They are very informative and are VERY helpful. Great customer service.

Regardless of which boat you choose, hope to see you out on the water soon!!

[scotty1369]

Originally Posted by JarrodMc

Siebler is right, 100%. Give the boats you're looking at a try and maybe a few more so you can truly be happy with your investment. If you want to try my Cuda before OEX gets theirs or if you're in my area (N. SD county) give me a buzz and I'll meet you on at the water. OEX is a great shop and the whole staff really knows what they're talking about. They are very informative and are VERY helpful. Great customer service.

Regardless of which boat you choose, hope to see you out on the water soon!!

For sure man. Ill see how things go maybe i can hit you up and try your cuda.