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[dos ballenas]

you sure do LOVE to hear yourself talk don't you Jim Day?

Unfortunatelysome of us are too busy actually fishing to care or listen to your rhetoric, or continue beating this dead horse

Keep searching for the scientific publications that refute your opinions..... but FYI you will not find any.

This might be difficult for you but, either:

A) try to believe that you might not know everything about everything

B) be patient

The scientists are working on analyzing the data, attending conferences,discussing the data and methods, and being furloughed by the government shutdown......

They latest data is still being collected and the publications are not even written yet!

Science is not exactly as clean and cut as welding.... but you know that right?

I know that this is hard to understand, but scientists try to make sure they leave opinions out of their papers. Controversial things like this take time!

The results for the publications which you are looking is years from being ready to publish. Do you believe that?

Is that OK with you?

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by dos ballenas

Keep searching for the scientific publications that refute (support) your opinions..... but FYI you will not find any.

OK I did five minute search..

Natanson:

"....shortfin mako sharks only deposit one band in their vertebrae per year, as well as providing validated ages for numerous specimens... aged 258 shortfin mako specimens and recorded maximum age of 32 years in females..."

Natanson, L.J.; Kohler, N.E., Ardizzone, D., Cailliet, G.M., Wintner, S.P. and Mollet, H.F. (2006). "Validated age and growth estimates for the shortfin mako, Isurus oxyrhinchus, in the North Atlantic Ocean.". Environmental Biology of Fishes 77 (3–4): 367–383.

Bishop:

"... validated age findings longevity estimates maximum 29 years...."

Bishop, S.D.H.; Francis, M.P., Duffy, C. and Montgomery, J.C. (2006). "Age, growth, maturity, longevity and natural mortality of the shortfin mako shark (Isurus oxyrinchus) in New Zealand waters". Marine and Freshwater Research 57: 143–154.


Last&Stevens:

"15 to 18 month gestation, 4 to 18 surviving young born live, females rest for 18 months after birth before mating again, shortfin makos bear young on average every 3 years...."

Last, PR; & Stevens JD (2012). Sharks and Rays of Australia — Second Edition. Australia: CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation)


DJ Ehret:

"...shark fossil (Carcharodon hubbelli), teeth, like those of the great white and megalodon, serrated appear to be in between the mako shark ancestor (Carcharodon hastalis), which are smooth for efficient fish-eating, and the sharp and serrated seal-munching teeth of the great white.... hybrid teeth of this new shark fossil provides evidence that this species is the great white shark ancestor.....fossil shark lived 6.5 million years ago, placing it as a intermediate species between the mako shark ancestor and the great white..... evidence supports the hypothesis that great white sharks are a mammal-eating variation on the mako shark..."

DJ Ehret et al. 2012. Origin of the white shark Carcharodon (Lamniformes: Lamnidae) based on recalibration of the Upper Neogene Pisco Formation of Peru. Palaeontology 55 (6): 1139–1153.



Damn that sounds kinda familiar, those are peer reviewed hard science sources and they all seem to agree with me. Funny thing: when you base your opinions on actual science, it's actually pretty easy to find legitimate peer reviewed sources that agree with what you say.

You might want to note the last two were just published recently so it's relatively new info to the game. I read some great write ups on that last one the Smithsonian recently published something about it.. You got to love it. For 150 years scientists falsely believed the whites were related to Megalodons and now they know they are seal eating Makos. The the fossils (from Peru) that prove it just happen to date to exactly to the time when the Otariidae sea lion explosion was happening in the Eastern Pacific. Really Exciting stuff, I was just blown away, you just can't make that shit up.

So I like this game. Maybe you'd like more info from peer reviewed sources that agrees with me ?