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Old 10-29-2013, 10:57 AM   #1
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This clip has been posted about a 100 times.
I think we got the point already. Thanks...
The point of being safe and preparing for the worst can never be stressed enough. There is ZERO reason to be negative about a repost when it has a strong message such as this one.

There are plenty of folks who have not seen this and think that because they own a PA they dont have to worry about flipping. Posting of this video opens the eyes of many and helps to motivate education of safety and re-entry. I am sure that I speak for the entire BWE crew along with the vast majority of BWE members when I ask you to refrain from making posts such as the one you did. It serves no useful purpose to the community while the post you are complaining about does the exact opposite and just may save somebodies life.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:50 AM   #2
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The point of being safe and preparing for the worst can never be stressed enough. There is ZERO reason to be negative about a repost when it has a strong message such as this one.

There are plenty of folks who have not seen this and think that because they own a PA they dont have to worry about flipping. Posting of this video opens the eyes of many and helps to motivate education of safety and re-entry. I am sure that I speak for the entire BWE crew along with the vast majority of BWE members when I ask you to refrain from making posts such as the one you did. It serves no useful purpose to the community while the post you are complaining about does the exact opposite and just may save somebodies life.

Whoever said the PA can't flip is like saying the Titanic is unsinkable.
Realistically most kayaks would of flipped with does conditions.

Maybe I got I little too sensitive, but that video puts the PA in bad light.
But yeah Siebler, i do see your point.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:18 PM   #3
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Whoever said the PA can't flip is like saying the Titanic is unsinkable.
Realistically most kayaks would of flipped with does conditions.

Maybe I got I little too sensitive, but that video puts the PA in bad light.
But yeah Siebler, i do see your point.
Bad light how? If anything it puts us PA owners back in our place Lets us know we are not invincible.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:39 PM   #4
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I have owned more that one kayak in my life and been on many others
in nasty windblown weather.

Having said that, If I had a choice, I much rather be on a PA.
But that's just my opinion.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:04 PM   #5
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There are a lot of folks that jump straight into PA's having never paddled anything else and do not know anything of self rescue or the way that kayaks perform in rough conditions. Generally when you hear of guys flipping PA's it usually ends up a bigger ordeal and scarier experience than those who have paddling experience and flip a boat such as a Prowler or Tarpon.

I know it sounds unreasonable but there are A LOT of poeple that jumped into PA's never knowing anything of kayak fishing until they saw the PA on TV or at Fred Hall or whatever and dont think they will flip these. And as ignorant as it sounds look at the way the PA is marketed...it is bound to happen this way.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:11 PM   #6
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Yes, once the PA is upside down that's could be another story. Although, when that 500lb pound sea lion flipped me surprisingly I didn't have too much trouble flipping it backup. I also question that guy skills on that video.

Generally the PA is a little harder to launch and land... and I think this is were most people with little experience get in to trouble most.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:54 PM   #7
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There are a lot of folks that jump straight into PA's having never paddled anything else and do not know anything of self rescue or the way that kayaks perform in rough conditions. Generally when you hear of guys flipping PA's it usually ends up a bigger ordeal and scarier experience than those who have paddling experience and flip a boat such as a Prowler or Tarpon.

I know it sounds unreasonable but there are A LOT of poeple that jumped into PA's never knowing anything of kayak fishing until they saw the PA on TV or at Fred Hall or whatever and dont think they will flip these. And as ignorant as it sounds look at the way the PA is marketed...it is bound to happen this way.
THIS^^ is me. PA14 is my first yak. got badly seasick my first time outside at LJ and flipped...in the kelp no less. Learned self rescue with spaghetti!

Posting this stuff is good since there are newbies like me on here every week trying to pick up a clue before we get into something new. [no need to bring any hate about how crowded the sport is getting...]
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