DFW Commission and lobster recomendations - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Tman · 12-05-2013, 08:04 AM

Transparency at its finest...

The MLPA BS started with 'volunteers' asking kayakers where they fish most often, telling them that they were doing the 'survey' to ensure their preferred locations would not be affected...ya right. Some kayakers fell for it, and the enviro nutjobs swooped in like vultures and claimed those areas were being overfished.

Now, new cards will give them the same info, and will be used accordingly, just as with the MLPA BS...and again, it will be the recreational hoopers who will be most affected, since the big boys have the $ to fight them, and they know it.

And changing opening times from midnight to 6 am??? WTF! Might as well change the opener time to 6 pm. I can see why from a safety standpoint, but I doubt many bugs will be crawling at 6 am.

Same shit, different species...and I bet, no, guarantee, that the idiotic diver who claimed at the MLPA BS that LJ had no fish will be on hand to claim that he doesn't see any lobster when he dives...

danjor · 12-05-2013, 09:02 AM

Trust me I would like to go to the meeting and voice my opinion but with this stupid job there's no way I can make the meeting on the 11th.
Once again thanks for the information and clarification on there "politics" some of I'm not against but some of it is stupid like getting rid of conical nets, but if they want me to hole punch my bugs tail to different it from commercial ones I have no problem not that it will change that people abusing recreational fishing and selling them from just not hole punching them which is the whole reason why there doing it.... now if they required commercial bugs to have tags like shellfish that's a idea that would work to keep illegal selling down, a simple tag that says where its caught and when by what commercial licence # and what # tag it is and just issue the tags to commercial with there licence that makes a lot more since than hole punching bugs on the recreational side..... its a lot harder to forge a tag than to not hole punch a bug....

blitzburgh · 12-05-2013, 09:22 AM

First off...Thank you for all you do for us Jim! If these jag-offs were truly interested in the "public's" comments, you would think they'd schedule these meetings at a more, work-friendly time. We all know they have not, nor will ever care about us. They have their agenda and are executing it flawlessly.

makobob · 12-05-2013, 10:09 AM

These are California Spiny Lobster, they were born here and they should stay HERE.

danjor · 12-05-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob

These are California Spiny Lobster, they were born here and they should stay HERE.

But unfortunately most of them are shipped to Asian country's and not consumed here. Other than point loma seafood I have not come across them anywhere in a consumer market. If I ever saw them on a menu I would order them and I'm sure most people would if they even knew they existed since IMO they taste a lot better than east cost bugs.

PapaDave · 12-05-2013, 01:57 PM

For all the time, cost and effort put in by hoop netters, why the heck would we be selling them? The statement that recreational bugs are ending up in stores is rediculous. What kind of store or restraunt would depend on sport caught lobster to stock it's shelves/freezers? I think they made that one up.

makobob · 12-05-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by danjor

But unfortunately most of them are shipped to Asian country's and not consumed here. Other than point loma seafood I have not come across them anywhere in a consumer market. If I ever saw them on a menu I would order them and I'm sure most people would if they even knew they existed since IMO they taste a lot better than east cost bugs.

You have to go to MEXICO to find them.
If Asia wants lobster let them farm them.
California lobster for California!

I am done.

jorluivil · 12-05-2013, 03:28 PM

Bob, I thought the same thing about these halibut that I saw at Costco, they weren't even close to being legal. If they are a product of California I would have to assume they are definitely illegal

I'm still trying to understand the description of the fish:
Fresh Wild 'California' Halibut, Product of 'Mexico'

Maybe a California halibut crossed the border into Mexico, got pregnant while in Mexico and that's where these baby Halibut were born

danjor · 12-05-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Bob, I thought the same thing about these halibut that I saw at Costco, they weren't even close to being legal. If they are a product of California I would have to assume they are definitely illegal

I'm still trying to understand the description of the fish:
Fresh Wild 'California' Halibut, Product of 'Mexico'

Maybe a California halibut crossed the border into Mexico, got pregnant while in Mexico and that's where these baby Halibut were born

I don't even know what to say about this. Undersized illegal alien halibut?
Did you take that pic if so which Costco?

12-05-2013, 08:04 AM	#1
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Transparency at its finest... The MLPA BS started with 'volunteers' asking kayakers where they fish most often, telling them that they were doing the 'survey' to ensure their preferred locations would not be affected...ya right. Some kayakers fell for it, and the enviro nutjobs swooped in like vultures and claimed those areas were being overfished. Now, new cards will give them the same info, and will be used accordingly, just as with the MLPA BS...and again, it will be the recreational hoopers who will be most affected, since the big boys have the $ to fight them, and they know it. And changing opening times from midnight to 6 am??? WTF! Might as well change the opener time to 6 pm. I can see why from a safety standpoint, but I doubt many bugs will be crawling at 6 am. Same shit, different species...and I bet, no, guarantee, that the idiotic diver who claimed at the MLPA BS that LJ had no fish will be on hand to claim that he doesn't see any lobster when he dives... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

12-05-2013, 09:22 AM	#3
blitzburgh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Menifee Posts: 2,509	First off...Thank you for all you do for us Jim! If these jag-offs were truly interested in the "public's" comments, you would think they'd schedule these meetings at a more, work-friendly time. We all know they have not, nor will ever care about us. They have their agenda and are executing it flawlessly. __________________ ”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” ~Thomas Jefferson.........maybe

12-05-2013, 10:09 AM	#4
makobob Baitless on Baja Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vista California, Gonzaga, San Quintin, Asuncion, Mag Bay Posts: 4,250	These are California Spiny Lobster, they were born here and they should stay HERE. __________________ http://www.mako-ville.com Home 760-630-4470 Cell 760-520-2514 YES YOU CAN

12-05-2013, 01:57 PM	#6
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,474	For all the time, cost and effort put in by hoop netters, why the heck would we be selling them? The statement that recreational bugs are ending up in stores is rediculous. What kind of store or restraunt would depend on sport caught lobster to stock it's shelves/freezers? I think they made that one up. __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

12-05-2013, 03:28 PM	#8
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Bob, I thought the same thing about these halibut that I saw at Costco, they weren't even close to being legal. If they are a product of California I would have to assume they are definitely illegal I'm still trying to understand the description of the fish: Fresh Wild 'California' Halibut, Product of 'Mexico' Maybe a California halibut crossed the border into Mexico, got pregnant while in Mexico and that's where these baby Halibut were born __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

12-05-2013, 09:02 AM	#2
danjor Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Riverside CA Posts: 673	Trust me I would like to go to the meeting and voice my opinion but with this stupid job there's no way I can make the meeting on the 11th. Once again thanks for the information and clarification on there "politics" some of I'm not against but some of it is stupid like getting rid of conical nets, but if they want me to hole punch my bugs tail to different it from commercial ones I have no problem not that it will change that people abusing recreational fishing and selling them from just not hole punching them which is the whole reason why there doing it.... now if they required commercial bugs to have tags like shellfish that's a idea that would work to keep illegal selling down, a simple tag that says where its caught and when by what commercial licence # and what # tag it is and just issue the tags to commercial with there licence that makes a lot more since than hole punching bugs on the recreational side..... its a lot harder to forge a tag than to not hole punch a bug....