Seasickness - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

BigTunaL · 03-09-2014, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nacho66

I did 22 years in the Navy, still riding ships, haven't need anything until recently when the rollers in
the Hawaiian area hit 20-30ft+ and make cruisers bob like corks. Took a Bonine pill just in case worked well. take then the night before and 1 hour prior to launch Andy 6 hours. This is what I gave I my daughter on our first 1 1/2 day cattle barge together it was rough but the did the trick..

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Excuse my ignorance, what is a Bonnie pill?

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old_rookie · 03-09-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BigTunaL

Excuse my ignorance, what is a Bonnie pill?

Dramamine would put me to sleep - but Bonine doesn't.

FISH11 · 03-09-2014, 10:59 AM

It's a good idea to take before or have on hand some type of motion sickness meication but they will make you sleepy. Besides the not staring down constantly it a good idea to have something in your stomach. I always carry a sandwich and some fruit, like 1 or 2 apples, crackers or chips. Of course that is to go with my six pack of beer. The more time you spend on the water the more your body will start to adjust and you might not need the medication or patch in the future. Good Luck

rieffer · 03-09-2014, 11:21 AM

Get the sliced ginger in the supermarket. When you go out take 5-6 pieces, put them in a baggie, and then eat as you need them. A cook on the Independence told me about that and it works.

StinkyMatt · 03-09-2014, 02:05 PM

I get sea sick easily. This is what I find works:

The RX patch...almost 100% effective, put on the night before, major dry mouth and you will feel in a "cloudy zone " all day

The Dramamine, sometimes works not always, very little side effects.

Eat crackers, ginger ale.

Do not eat greasy food.

Looking down will get you sicker faster.

If it is warm/warm water....jump in the water..just a few minutes next to your kayak, instantly feel good. I guess your body changes its priorities when it is in the water.

Best one yet, proven again and again. Bring a bag of sunflower seeds, munch on them. Don't know what it is, the salt the extra Silvia or whatever...it works.

Good luck.

619-SWIM-DOG · 03-09-2014, 05:06 PM

Pickled ginger...works

YakDout · 03-09-2014, 05:25 PM

I used to get sick as a dog. Whether it be kayak, boat, diving I would get sick no matter what. I'd be chumming in no time and even the slightest bit of motion sickness can make fishing no fun. I've tried the Dramamine, Bonine, other random motion sickness pills, as well as the patch. The patch was the only thing that worked for me 100%. But at the end of the day, it costed money, you need prescription for it, you have to make sure it stays on etc.
One day I just told myself I'm not going to get sick anymore, and I fought it mentally. And won. I can be in heavy heavy swells, wind, small boat, big boat. Doesn't matter anymore. I just tell myself I'm not getting sick, and I don't. Not sure this would work for everyone, but it worked for me.

sasha · 03-09-2014, 05:35 PM

For me I get seasick as soon as I get on the water. I try and stay away when the weather is very bad. Used to take ginger and every other remedy someone would suggest. Most of the time it gave me upset stomach before I even hit the water. Now I don't take anything, When I feel sick I just start paddling as fast as I can till I feel better. One day had another kayaker asks me why I go so fast in big circles. That day I couldn't stop for more then 20 min...

TJones · 03-10-2014, 12:18 PM

The kelp thing I have never heard . Look at Horizon , Bonine / Dramamine , patch , and consumption of some ginger . One other proven method is pressure points on inside of wrists . You can purchase wrist bands at pharmacy .

Hunters Pa · 03-10-2014, 12:27 PM

My brother gets seasick something fierce, like even on a lake. Nothing ever worked for him until he tried one of these:

http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...&aparam=505303

They have them at a lot of places. Nice thing is you can use it even after you start feeling maggoty. Also, once you feel better you can take it off and give someone else some relief.

TJones · 03-10-2014, 12:30 PM

High tech . That you should do it .

Hunters Pa · 03-10-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones

High tech . That you should do it .

My brother tried EVERYTHING. Nothing else ever worked until this thing. Not cheap, but works when nothing else does

Big T · 03-10-2014, 01:45 PM

Big Tuna... it's completely mental. It's your brain interpreting the mechanical signals your stomach, inner ear and eyes are sending to it.

All of this advice works that has been said. But to be honest, it's all stuff that works when YOU can't keep the mechanical signals from being confused.

So? Keep them from being confused as best as you can!

Seasickness is caused by your brain getting mixed signals. Period. Your eyes see one thing, while your stomach contents are doing another. Throw in the odd inner ear activity and you have chum sessions. Your body's defense mechanism is to get rid of the "toxin" your brain thinks is in your stomach.... or something like that.

Like I said... all of the "remedies" work, but try going out on the water with a different mentality and a differently loaded stomach.

For instance, what someone said about "not looking down" is SO valid. Keep your eyes scanning the horizon at all times, BUT still anticipating each little wave that you're going to go over. There, now you've conquered the eyes part of the mixed messages. Now on to the stomach. You want your stomach to be as solid as possible. Either empty or a bare minimum of natural, non greasy, dry food. Now for the inner ear... not "much" you can do about what it tells your brain, but I have been told by captains that being properly hydrated (with water) allows the inner ear which is filled with fluid to operate properly and efficiently.

Sorry for the long explanation but this was told to me when I had issues and then BAM. No more sea sickness... ever. I just look at the roughness as a "ride" now and enjoy being part of the sea's attitude.

Now... Here's a little monkeywrench to prove my point... When I DO go out into a moonless, windy, washing-machine-sea night of WSB or bug fishing... (me? never!) the "eyes" part of it can sometimes get me a bit queasy, because I can't see the waves that hit the kayak before they do... But for some reason, maybe because of my "ride" frame of mind, it doesn't send me over the edge. Dunno why. Probably just from "time on the water" like someone else said.

Simply "finding your sea legs" and goin' with it is another great way of looking at it.... When on a boat, stand up... let go of the rail. Ride it actively. Same as a kayak... go with it. Don't fight the swells and waves... just be loose and let the yak do what it's gotta do and you just roll with it while staying mentally engaged in the horizon and flow.

philr21 · 03-12-2014, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

My brother gets seasick something fierce, like even on a lake. Nothing ever worked for him until he tried one of these:

http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...&aparam=505303

They have them at a lot of places. Nice thing is you can use it even after you start feeling maggoty. Also, once you feel better you can take it off and give someone else some relief.

I always thought those were a gimmick, may be worth trying after all.

Same as the rest for me- dramamine the night before and morning of. If it's calm I don't need anything, but one day I should have taken it and didn't. Chumming from the kayak is not fun. I was worried I'd lean too far over to clear the kayak and roll.

I prefer the "Less drowsy" dramamine. Also the focusing on the horizon is solid. Even on fishing boats I can get queazy for a second if I focus down too much, rebaiting, tying on rigs, etc.

I also learned: limit alcohol the night before, and get a good nights rest. Makes a world of difference. For my wife- perfume is a no go.

Hunters Pa · 03-12-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by philr21

I always thought those were a gimmick, may be worth trying after all.

Same as the rest for me- dramamine the night before and morning of. If it's calm I don't need anything, but one day I should have taken it and didn't. Chumming from the kayak is not fun. I was worried I'd lean too far over to clear the kayak and roll.

I prefer the "Less drowsy" dramamine. Also the focusing on the horizon is solid. Even on fishing boats I can get queazy for a second if I focus down too much, rebaiting, tying on rigs, etc.

I also learned: limit alcohol the night before, and get a good nights rest. Makes a world of difference. For my wife- perfume is a no go.

He swears by it. Nothing else has ever worked for him. Even if it is all mental, for him it works and is worth its weight in gold.

03-09-2014, 05:25 PM	#7
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	Mental I used to get sick as a dog. Whether it be kayak, boat, diving I would get sick no matter what. I'd be chumming in no time and even the slightest bit of motion sickness can make fishing no fun. I've tried the Dramamine, Bonine, other random motion sickness pills, as well as the patch. The patch was the only thing that worked for me 100%. But at the end of the day, it costed money, you need prescription for it, you have to make sure it stays on etc. One day I just told myself I'm not going to get sick anymore, and I fought it mentally. And won. I can be in heavy heavy swells, wind, small boat, big boat. Doesn't matter anymore. I just tell myself I'm not getting sick, and I don't. Not sure this would work for everyone, but it worked for me.

03-10-2014, 12:18 PM	#9
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	All of the above mentioned The kelp thing I have never heard . Look at Horizon , Bonine / Dramamine , patch , and consumption of some ginger . One other proven method is pressure points on inside of wrists . You can purchase wrist bands at pharmacy .

03-10-2014, 12:30 PM	#11
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	That is state of the art High tech . That you should do it .

03-10-2014, 01:45 PM	#13
Big T Member, You Member! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lake Forest Posts: 254	Big Tuna... it's completely mental. It's your brain interpreting the mechanical signals your stomach, inner ear and eyes are sending to it. All of this advice works that has been said. But to be honest, it's all stuff that works when YOU can't keep the mechanical signals from being confused. So? Keep them from being confused as best as you can! Seasickness is caused by your brain getting mixed signals. Period. Your eyes see one thing, while your stomach contents are doing another. Throw in the odd inner ear activity and you have chum sessions. Your body's defense mechanism is to get rid of the "toxin" your brain thinks is in your stomach.... or something like that. Like I said... all of the "remedies" work, but try going out on the water with a different mentality and a differently loaded stomach. For instance, what someone said about "not looking down" is SO valid. Keep your eyes scanning the horizon at all times, BUT still anticipating each little wave that you're going to go over. There, now you've conquered the eyes part of the mixed messages. Now on to the stomach. You want your stomach to be as solid as possible. Either empty or a bare minimum of natural, non greasy, dry food. Now for the inner ear... not "much" you can do about what it tells your brain, but I have been told by captains that being properly hydrated (with water) allows the inner ear which is filled with fluid to operate properly and efficiently. Sorry for the long explanation but this was told to me when I had issues and then BAM. No more sea sickness... ever. I just look at the roughness as a "ride" now and enjoy being part of the sea's attitude. Now... Here's a little monkeywrench to prove my point... When I DO go out into a moonless, windy, washing-machine-sea night of WSB or bug fishing... (me? never!) the "eyes" part of it can sometimes get me a bit queasy, because I can't see the waves that hit the kayak before they do... But for some reason, maybe because of my "ride" frame of mind, it doesn't send me over the edge. Dunno why. Probably just from "time on the water" like someone else said. Simply "finding your sea legs" and goin' with it is another great way of looking at it.... When on a boat, stand up... let go of the rail. Ride it actively. Same as a kayak... go with it. Don't fight the swells and waves... just be loose and let the yak do what it's gotta do and you just roll with it while staying mentally engaged in the horizon and flow. Last edited by Big T; 03-10-2014 at 01:54 PM.

03-09-2014, 10:59 AM	#3
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	It's a good idea to take before or have on hand some type of motion sickness meication but they will make you sleepy. Besides the not staring down constantly it a good idea to have something in your stomach. I always carry a sandwich and some fruit, like 1 or 2 apples, crackers or chips. Of course that is to go with my six pack of beer. The more time you spend on the water the more your body will start to adjust and you might not need the medication or patch in the future. Good Luck

03-09-2014, 11:21 AM	#4
rieffer Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 91	Get the sliced ginger in the supermarket. When you go out take 5-6 pieces, put them in a baggie, and then eat as you need them. A cook on the Independence told me about that and it works.

03-09-2014, 02:05 PM	#5
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	I get sea sick easily. This is what I find works: The RX patch...almost 100% effective, put on the night before, major dry mouth and you will feel in a "cloudy zone " all day The Dramamine, sometimes works not always, very little side effects. Eat crackers, ginger ale. Do not eat greasy food. Looking down will get you sicker faster. If it is warm/warm water....jump in the water..just a few minutes next to your kayak, instantly feel good. I guess your body changes its priorities when it is in the water. Best one yet, proven again and again. Bring a bag of sunflower seeds, munch on them. Don't know what it is, the salt the extra Silvia or whatever...it works. Good luck.

03-09-2014, 05:06 PM	#6
619-SWIM-DOG Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 619	Pickled ginger...works

03-09-2014, 05:35 PM	#8
sasha Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 275	For me I get seasick as soon as I get on the water. I try and stay away when the weather is very bad. Used to take ginger and every other remedy someone would suggest. Most of the time it gave me upset stomach before I even hit the water. Now I don't take anything, When I feel sick I just start paddling as fast as I can till I feel better. One day had another kayaker asks me why I go so fast in big circles. That day I couldn't stop for more then 20 min...

03-10-2014, 12:27 PM	#10
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,361	My brother gets seasick something fierce, like even on a lake. Nothing ever worked for him until he tried one of these: http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...&aparam=505303 They have them at a lot of places. Nice thing is you can use it even after you start feeling maggoty. Also, once you feel better you can take it off and give someone else some relief.