First legal Halibut...Fishing Report - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

alfsteur · 03-10-2014, 03:36 PM

That's a nice legal haul!!! I help measured it twice (with butt mouth closed!!

), the angle on the pix probably skewed it somehow, but Bolocop has nothing to worry about!

Btw, any of you guys talk to DFG folks doing survey out there? I think it's a really cool study... a young DFG lad mentioned to me it's THE LARGEST survey of saltwater species ever!

jorluivil · 03-10-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by alfsteur

That's a nice legal haul!!! I help measured it twice (with butt mouth closed!!

), the angle on the pix probably skewed it somehow, but Bolocop has nothing to worry about!

Btw, any of you guys talk to DFG folks doing survey out there? I think it's a really cool study... a young DFG lad mentioned to me it's THE LARGEST survey of saltwater species ever!

Those surveys have been going on for an eternity. The cute girls always get my attention and I let them measure whatever they want

StinkyMatt · 03-10-2014, 05:28 PM

They use millimeters to measure these days?

Bert Vega · 03-10-2014, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Those surveys have been going on for an eternity. The cute girls always get my attention and I let them measure whatever they want

Hahaha

Nice job. I am looking for my first halibut myself.

bolocop · 03-10-2014, 05:37 PM

Used a grub and dragged it on the bottom with a Texas rig. Not sure how well it works, since this is my first legal. No bites the previous 6 months!

alanw · 03-10-2014, 05:46 PM

Wow, 6 months dragging a grub around until it caught something? Well you are persistent that's for sure. I usually give something a few hours before I toss it in the bin.

Grunt31 · 03-10-2014, 06:23 PM

Another way to avoid a scare is always count a legal on the catch at least at 24. That way after it's been out a while and shrivels a bit, you should still be in the clear. I mostly fish on Pendleton and I've seen tons of guys pull in legals then the game warden rolls up.... Measures and BOOM! Not so legal anymore. But most DFG fellas have common sense and know it but you'll still have to toss it back. Either way congrats on the pull.

bolocop · 03-10-2014, 06:53 PM

Ahhh, the shrinkage excuse! I never thought it would apply to fish!

Grunt31 · 03-10-2014, 08:18 PM

If it's 22" on the pull in.... And a warden comes by and measures it 21.5" their measure is all that matters. But good luck with more pulls

Cadillyak · 03-10-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alfsteur

That's a nice legal haul!!! I help measured it twice (with butt mouth closed!!

), the angle on the pix probably skewed it somehow, but Bolocop has nothing to worry about!

Btw, any of you guys talk to DFG folks doing survey out there? I think it's a really cool study... a young DFG lad mentioned to me it's THE LARGEST survey of saltwater species ever!

I have hear that these surveys aren't DFW and actually MLPA trying to get data to take more of our waters away. Just hearsay of course.

Saba Slayer · 03-11-2014, 07:18 AM

Those surveys are DFW. They call them a "creel survey".
During the Lobster advisory committee meetings the DFW and commercial Lobster guys and the NGO's tried to use the data from a creel survey that was conducted years ago, to prove that the ratio of hoop netters and divers was about 20% divers to 80% hoopers. That's total BS... as most divers walk right off the beach or launch from a slip and never even get seen, counted, or interviewed by the DFW at a hand launch dock or launch ramp.
Like the lobster report card, creel surveys are just another tool or piece of the puzzle to help see the whole picture...but they are definitely not quite as valuable as the DFW makes them out to be, since the info can be as skewed as the respondee feels like giving that day.
Jim / Saba Slayer

kauaiboy04 · 03-11-2014, 07:55 AM

nice cherry poppin hali! i've been catching way too many shorts, and with no sardines in sight for this year, sometimes the larger plastics will do the job. congrats again!

Workplacesafety · 03-19-2014, 06:28 AM

Way to stay with it. Congrats on the legal!!!

William Novotny · 03-14-2014, 10:51 AM

Why isn't this posted in West coast whoppers?! You could be KING for a day!

jorluivil · 03-14-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by William Novotny

Why isn't this posted in West coast whoppers?! You could be KING for a day!

I wondered the same thing but didn't want to say anything. This is one of the reasons I didn't agree with the 'post it when you want to' rules. I can assure you that if there was a deadline (end of the month) the WCW would get more attention.

William Novotny · 03-14-2014, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I wondered the same thing but didn't want to say anything. This is one of the reasons I didn't agree with the 'post it when you want to' rules. I can assure you that if there was a deadline (end of the month) the WCW would get more attention.

Yep. The second I get a 22 1/2" I will rule my subjects

Aaron&Julie · 03-16-2014, 07:50 AM

Size doesn't matter when it's your first. Besides that will yield a couple of pounds of tasty fillets. Congrats!

03-10-2014, 05:46 PM	#6
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03-11-2014, 07:18 AM	#11
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,871	Survey Those surveys are DFW. They call them a "creel survey". During the Lobster advisory committee meetings the DFW and commercial Lobster guys and the NGO's tried to use the data from a creel survey that was conducted years ago, to prove that the ratio of hoop netters and divers was about 20% divers to 80% hoopers. That's total BS... as most divers walk right off the beach or launch from a slip and never even get seen, counted, or interviewed by the DFW at a hand launch dock or launch ramp. Like the lobster report card, creel surveys are just another tool or piece of the puzzle to help see the whole picture...but they are definitely not quite as valuable as the DFW makes them out to be, since the info can be as skewed as the respondee feels like giving that day. Jim / Saba Slayer

03-11-2014, 07:55 AM	#12
kauaiboy04 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sandy Eggo Posts: 215	nice cherry poppin hali! i've been catching way too many shorts, and with no sardines in sight for this year, sometimes the larger plastics will do the job. congrats again! __________________ http://socalkayak.blogspot.com

03-14-2014, 10:51 AM	#14
William Novotny The carpetbagger Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: tha newps Posts: 1,474	Why isn't this posted in West coast whoppers?! You could be KING for a day! __________________ "The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope." http://www.badinfluencetattoo.com/gallery.php?artist=21

03-16-2014, 07:50 AM	#17
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	Size doesn't matter when it's your first. Besides that will yield a couple of pounds of tasty fillets. Congrats! __________________ "Never say die"

03-10-2014, 03:36 PM	#1
alfsteur Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 129	That's a nice legal haul!!! I help measured it twice (with butt mouth closed!! ), the angle on the pix probably skewed it somehow, but Bolocop has nothing to worry about! Btw, any of you guys talk to DFG folks doing survey out there? I think it's a really cool study... a young DFG lad mentioned to me it's THE LARGEST survey of saltwater species ever!

03-10-2014, 05:28 PM	#3
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	They use millimeters to measure these days?

03-10-2014, 05:37 PM	#5
bolocop Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 332	Used a grub and dragged it on the bottom with a Texas rig. Not sure how well it works, since this is my first legal. No bites the previous 6 months!

03-10-2014, 06:23 PM	#7
Grunt31 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pendleton Posts: 80	Another way to avoid a scare is always count a legal on the catch at least at 24. That way after it's been out a while and shrivels a bit, you should still be in the clear. I mostly fish on Pendleton and I've seen tons of guys pull in legals then the game warden rolls up.... Measures and BOOM! Not so legal anymore. But most DFG fellas have common sense and know it but you'll still have to toss it back. Either way congrats on the pull.

03-10-2014, 06:53 PM	#8
bolocop Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 332	Ahhh, the shrinkage excuse! I never thought it would apply to fish!

03-10-2014, 08:18 PM	#9
Grunt31 Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pendleton Posts: 80	If it's 22" on the pull in.... And a warden comes by and measures it 21.5" their measure is all that matters. But good luck with more pulls

03-19-2014, 06:28 AM	#13
Workplacesafety Safety First and Always Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Westminster Ca. Posts: 11	Way to stay with it. Congrats on the legal!!!