Summer YAK Shark trip! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Dave I. · 04-02-2008, 07:08 PM

Really looking for a 100+lb Thresher or a Mako, Since i have never caught either, i asked for help, seriously, i won't try this by myself.

So trolling a rapala outside the kelp, huh? Which rapala, magnums or saltwater X-raps?

Dave

JrBasser · 04-02-2008, 08:45 PM

the magnum will be much more heavy duty. A rapala magnum cd-14 in blue mac has been my money bait for many different species.

A Knife is ESSENTIAL, but as Brinkman will tell you, it doesnt have to be too sharp ;-)

I'd be down to go. About a month or two more and the pup T's will be infesting LJ. Hopefully. I'd say your safest bet for a 100 pound shark would be a thresher. They have that tail, but a much smaller mouth and less teeth to worry about, as well as a little tamer. Use about 40, 50 pound line, a heavy duty swivel, 100 pound floro leader crimped to the swivel and a large hook with a big mac on it. Too many smaller sharks will grab the rapala first. Not to say a big one won't grab it, but you get the idea. put a couple slashes in the macs sides to get a blood trail goin and have fun.

SHARK BAIT · 04-02-2008, 08:49 PM

IM IN!! TIME PLACE?

Minix008 · 04-02-2008, 11:02 PM

Id like to troll around sunset where specifically could i launch out to catch some pup threshers for fun. Where in sunset should i troll and how far out?

ill probably be on my skiff since my kayak might be sold by then or ill rent one. Any comments appreciated

Nick

Dave I. · 04-03-2008, 04:17 AM

First date will be late May,
23,24,30 or 31. Friday afternoons or all day saturdays. I need another week or two for schedule lock down.

I also want to make sure i know exact what i'm supposed to do when i finally hook into a big fish. I like my fingers, arms and muscle mass right were it is, no mistakes.

Dave

FISHIONADO · 04-03-2008, 06:20 AM

Very ambitious, you are smart to ask for help. Could be similar to learning to ride a bicycle in the fast lane of the freeway. Be careful out there and good luck.

tylerdurden · 04-03-2008, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave I.

I like my fingers, arms and muscle mass right were it is, no mistakes.

Dave

Then I would not try and keep a mako on a kayak, period. I don't think I phrased it strongly enough the first time. Afishianados comment is right on.

Mako sharks are unpredictable and scary on a boat. Mako sharks from the kayak are even worse. They like to chew on things, even while hooked. I'm sure if you google it you can find images of of boats with makos chewing on the boat, swimstep, motor, or chumbags.

The risk reward ratio is a little off for keeping any mako over pup size. Not saying it can't be done in a safe way, but is it worth it? I leave makos to boaters.

One of the more famous pics of a mako jumping:

This one tried to chew on Tmans boat before he cut it free.

This one ripped the dehooking device out of my hands a couple times trying to get my iron back. I thought it might lunge or jump into the boat. It was scary and this one was only ~50#.

This one was only about 8#, I felt I could have kept it without getting hurt, but what's the point of keeping one this small.

esdees · 04-03-2008, 07:18 AM

Threshers are easy to deal with because they wear themselves out during the fight. When fighting, landing, and releasing threshers, I've never had a problem or felt like I was in any danger. They do jump, but only early in the fight.

Makos are a very different story. They seem to go wherever they are pulled, meaning they come straight to you when you hook them and they don't wear themselves out. When I used a bait tube, makos would come out of nowhere and start chewing on it (this happened at least three times). They also like to jump, but sporadically.

I've only hooked one hammerhead and that was the best fight I've ever had from a kayak. That's the only time that I've ever needed to splash water on my reel to cool it off (except for that one sealion, but those don't count).

If you end up catching a big shark, I would recommend that you release it. There is only so much weight you can carry on a kayak and you will NOT be able to drag it behind you (keyword: drag), unless you don't mind going half a mile an hour (or less). Makos and threshers are tasty. I've never tried them, but blues and hammerheads are supposed to be bad. I don't know about the other sharks.

Good luck. I'll make at least one shark trip this year.

Dave I. · 04-03-2008, 08:32 AM

tylerdurden, thanks for the pics! AND the extra healthy respect for mako's. If we have a boat with us, I would like to keep a big one, but if not pics of the fight and a release is good for me. I do want a keepable T for dinner though.

Again thanks for the input.

Dave

04-02-2008, 11:02 PM	#4
Minix008 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cypress, ca Posts: 92	sunset threshers Id like to troll around sunset where specifically could i launch out to catch some pup threshers for fun. Where in sunset should i troll and how far out? ill probably be on my skiff since my kayak might be sold by then or ill rent one. Any comments appreciated Nick

04-02-2008, 07:08 PM	#1
Dave I. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 51	Really looking for a 100+lb Thresher or a Mako, Since i have never caught either, i asked for help, seriously, i won't try this by myself. So trolling a rapala outside the kelp, huh? Which rapala, magnums or saltwater X-raps? Dave

04-02-2008, 08:45 PM	#2
JrBasser Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 260	the magnum will be much more heavy duty. A rapala magnum cd-14 in blue mac has been my money bait for many different species. A Knife is ESSENTIAL, but as Brinkman will tell you, it doesnt have to be too sharp ;-) I'd be down to go. About a month or two more and the pup T's will be infesting LJ. Hopefully. I'd say your safest bet for a 100 pound shark would be a thresher. They have that tail, but a much smaller mouth and less teeth to worry about, as well as a little tamer. Use about 40, 50 pound line, a heavy duty swivel, 100 pound floro leader crimped to the swivel and a large hook with a big mac on it. Too many smaller sharks will grab the rapala first. Not to say a big one won't grab it, but you get the idea. put a couple slashes in the macs sides to get a blood trail goin and have fun.

04-02-2008, 08:49 PM	#3
SHARK BAIT Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: WILMINGTON CA Posts: 66	IM IN!! TIME PLACE?

04-03-2008, 04:17 AM	#5
Dave I. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 51	First date will be late May, 23,24,30 or 31. Friday afternoons or all day saturdays. I need another week or two for schedule lock down. I also want to make sure i know exact what i'm supposed to do when i finally hook into a big fish. I like my fingers, arms and muscle mass right were it is, no mistakes. Dave

04-03-2008, 06:20 AM	#6
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	Very ambitious, you are smart to ask for help. Could be similar to learning to ride a bicycle in the fast lane of the freeway. Be careful out there and good luck.

04-03-2008, 07:18 AM	#8
esdees The Good Clone Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Clairemont Posts: 520	Threshers are easy to deal with because they wear themselves out during the fight. When fighting, landing, and releasing threshers, I've never had a problem or felt like I was in any danger. They do jump, but only early in the fight. Makos are a very different story. They seem to go wherever they are pulled, meaning they come straight to you when you hook them and they don't wear themselves out. When I used a bait tube, makos would come out of nowhere and start chewing on it (this happened at least three times). They also like to jump, but sporadically. I've only hooked one hammerhead and that was the best fight I've ever had from a kayak. That's the only time that I've ever needed to splash water on my reel to cool it off (except for that one sealion, but those don't count). If you end up catching a big shark, I would recommend that you release it. There is only so much weight you can carry on a kayak and you will NOT be able to drag it behind you (keyword: drag), unless you don't mind going half a mile an hour (or less). Makos and threshers are tasty. I've never tried them, but blues and hammerheads are supposed to be bad. I don't know about the other sharks. Good luck. I'll make at least one shark trip this year.

04-03-2008, 08:32 AM	#9
Dave I. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 51	tylerdurden, thanks for the pics! AND the extra healthy respect for mako's. If we have a boat with us, I would like to keep a big one, but if not pics of the fight and a release is good for me. I do want a keepable T for dinner though. Again thanks for the input. Dave