Tips for trolling artificials? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Mahigeer · 09-28-2015, 06:12 PM

Hi Dave,

It is Fener from the other website.

You can double the weight of a crocodile by using a bigger split rings and a second crocodile lure.
The color of the second one does not matter, but it has to be the same exact size.
Spooning them together will double the weight as well as provide a rattle.

Other option is to put a torpedo sinker 3-4 feet above the lure and between the main line and the lure.
This way you can use braid or Mono and only short section of Fluorocarbon leader.
A sinker with rubber band insert will work too without adding two more knots to your rig.

Slowing your speed, having a rod in a Scotty holder which brings the rod tip close to water levell will help too.

If you hook a good size bonito or a yellowtail and if a sea lion picks it up, you could lose the rod which is held in between the legs!

taggermike · 09-29-2015, 09:39 AM

You can adjust the the depth that your lure runs by adjusting weight, amount of line out, and speed. If you're in deeper water there's no reason to not troll a swim bait on a 4 oz head and long line it. You should be able to paddle or peddle as fast as you can w/o the lure skipping. They drag more than spoons or plastics, but diving plugs are often designed to be trolled. And the faster you pull them the deeper they dive. Some thing I've done is run a plastic on one side and a plug on the other. As you speed up the plug dives and the plastic rises. Slow down and then plastic sinks and the plug floats. I think it covers the water column with both lures. Deffinatelty keeping the rod tip closer to the Water or running a flat line will let your lure run deeper. Mike

Ohiostreetz · 09-29-2015, 09:45 AM

Past few weeks while catching bait I've had awesome luck casting into bait boils with spoons and crank baits for bonito usually only when im bored with the bait catching I've been using 1oz-2oz and just retrieving fast. Bonito vary from 10"-20"

Dave Legacy · 10-01-2015, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahigeer

Hi Dave,

It is Fener from the other website.

Hey Hashem!

Dave Legacy · 10-01-2015, 08:40 AM

Thanks again for all the advice. I actually have a scotty rod holder that I hadn't found an application for yet, but now think I'll put it to use trolling. I have two flushmounts near my feet that I'll install some scotty gimbal adapters in for scotty rod holders and that should do it. I think I'll troll around some diving hardbaits and save my spoons for throwing at the bits of floating kelp and boils.

Looking forward to putting this advice to use!

09-28-2015, 06:12 PM	#1
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,910	Hi Dave, It is Fener from the other website. You can double the weight of a crocodile by using a bigger split rings and a second crocodile lure. The color of the second one does not matter, but it has to be the same exact size. Spooning them together will double the weight as well as provide a rattle. Other option is to put a torpedo sinker 3-4 feet above the lure and between the main line and the lure. This way you can use braid or Mono and only short section of Fluorocarbon leader. A sinker with rubber band insert will work too without adding two more knots to your rig. Slowing your speed, having a rod in a Scotty holder which brings the rod tip close to water levell will help too. If you hook a good size bonito or a yellowtail and if a sea lion picks it up, you could lose the rod which is held in between the legs! Last edited by Mahigeer; 09-29-2015 at 07:41 AM.

09-29-2015, 09:39 AM	#2
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	You can adjust the the depth that your lure runs by adjusting weight, amount of line out, and speed. If you're in deeper water there's no reason to not troll a swim bait on a 4 oz head and long line it. You should be able to paddle or peddle as fast as you can w/o the lure skipping. They drag more than spoons or plastics, but diving plugs are often designed to be trolled. And the faster you pull them the deeper they dive. Some thing I've done is run a plastic on one side and a plug on the other. As you speed up the plug dives and the plastic rises. Slow down and then plastic sinks and the plug floats. I think it covers the water column with both lures. Deffinatelty keeping the rod tip closer to the Water or running a flat line will let your lure run deeper. Mike

09-29-2015, 09:45 AM	#3
Ohiostreetz Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 60	Past few weeks while catching bait I've had awesome luck casting into bait boils with spoons and crank baits for bonito usually only when im bored with the bait catching I've been using 1oz-2oz and just retrieving fast. Bonito vary from 10"-20"

10-01-2015, 08:40 AM	#5
Dave Legacy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA Posts: 427	Thanks again for all the advice. I actually have a scotty rod holder that I hadn't found an application for yet, but now think I'll put it to use trolling. I have two flushmounts near my feet that I'll install some scotty gimbal adapters in for scotty rod holders and that should do it. I think I'll troll around some diving hardbaits and save my spoons for throwing at the bits of floating kelp and boils. Looking forward to putting this advice to use!