Put the mackerel out to soon. 4/8/16

[stevie951]

Originally Posted by ROSSOLY

Not sure how happy you will be when paying for the ticket. My friend had to pay $400 for fishing w two poles w/o 2nd pole stamp. Not sure if this applies to your situation, hope not.

Or you can just be a degenerate like myself, every time I get a speeding ticket I take it to court.. Not sure about the Dept.of Fish and Game, but with CA Traffic court, you are allowed like 2 month long extensions from the original appear date on the Ticket, after the 2nd ext, a Must Appear date is given that cannot be moved and chances are higher that those 2 months later, now 4 or 5 months after the original ticket, the officer could care less or simply cannot attend that court date. If the Officer is not there to defend the case, you automatically are not guilty (of course you have to pay the fine before a judge will see the case but upon the NG verdict, you will be refunded..) If he is there, chances are he did not have video evidence of you with the 3 poles, so just be polite to the judge, dress nice, and give him your "honest" rendition of things..

Now I really feel pathetic.. Lol

[ROSSOLY]

Originally Posted by stevie951

Or you can just be a degenerate like myself, every time I get a speeding ticket I take it to court, if the Officer is not there to defend the case, you automatically are not guilty (of course you have to pay the fine before a judge will see the case but upon the NG verdict, you will be refunded..) If he is there, chances are he did not have video evidence of you with the 3 poles, so just be polite to the judge and give him your "honest" rendition of things..

Now I really feel pathetic.. Lol

That's being crafty and not a degenerate

[MITCHELL]

I'll let you know what the fine is...

[Silbaugh4liberty]

I'm a rebel, so I'd fight it! (hence my SN - silbaugh4LIBERTY) If I can get a MISDEMEANOR traffic ticket Dismissed, then this would be a piece of cake in my book. Honestly, ask yourself this....."who did I injure/hurt/steal from/or rights did I violate?" If you said None to all of those, then there is no crime. The ticket is them extending an offer to do business, and if you accept, then go ahead and pay the ticket. I sure wouldn't.

Nice job on the limits BTW!!

[Ror_sal]

[QUOTE=stevie951;258088]Or you can just be a degenerate like myself, every time I get a speeding ticket I take it to court.. Not sure about the Dept.of Fish and Game, but with CA Traffic court, you are allowed like 2 month long extensions from the original appear date on the Ticket, after the 2nd ext, a Must Appear date is given that cannot be moved and chances are higher that those 2 months later, now 4 or 5 months after the original ticket, the officer could care less or simply cannot attend that court date. If the Officer is not there to defend the case, you automatically are not guilty (of course you have to pay the fine before a judge will see the case but upon the NG verdict, you will be refunded..) If he is there, chances are he did not have video evidence of you with the 3 poles, so just be polite to the judge, dress nice, and give him your "honest" rendition of things..

Now I really feel pathetic..

awesome!

[Silbaugh4liberty]

[QUOTE=Ror_sal;258110]

Originally Posted by stevie951

Or you can just be a degenerate like myself, every time I get a speeding ticket I take it to court.. Not sure about the Dept.of Fish and Game, but with CA Traffic court, you are allowed like 2 month long extensions from the original appear date on the Ticket, after the 2nd ext, a Must Appear date is given that cannot be moved and chances are higher that those 2 months later, now 4 or 5 months after the original ticket, the officer could care less or simply cannot attend that court date. If the Officer is not there to defend the case, you automatically are not guilty (of course you have to pay the fine before a judge will see the case but upon the NG verdict, you will be refunded..) If he is there, chances are he did not have video evidence of you with the 3 poles, so just be polite to the judge, dress nice, and give him your "honest" rendition of things..

Now I really feel pathetic..

awesome!

Not necessarily True. I asked the judge where was the officer (witness) in my traffic ticket, and the judge of course lied and said it was a trial issue (which was on my alleged trial date). They don't care, they just want your money. I then said that per the 6th Amendment, I have the right to cross examine the witnesses against me (cop), and this judge said that's only in Civil cases??!! WTF, really? That's how corrupt these idiots are. That's why when you go for the arraignment, they ask if you want to give up your Constitutional rights to enter a plea. That's when I say, NO, I don't want to give up any of my protected rights. And if they enter a plea on your behalf, they're doing so illegally. It's a separation of Powers Violation, since they cannot practice law from the bench.

You're best bet is to serve a summons to the officer, and then if he doesn't show up, you can throw that in their face, and then they MUST dismiss it. I'd still file a Demurr to dismiss though, since they lack evidence proving Jurisdiction. The reason being is they'll say you injured the people of (THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA). Well who in the hell is the (STATE OF CALIFORNIA)? It's a corporation, a DBA, a fictitious entity. Don't believe me, do the research yourself.

You can look up any Business on Dunn & Bradstreet
https://businesscredit.dnb.com/coo

Last time I checked, the Constitution doesn't say (We the Citizens), it says (We the People). Citizen=corporation=DBA

Last food for thought. Some local news from this week.......

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/edito...407-story.html

[MITCHELL]

I never take more than a limit.....I release all the big mouth bass I have good fishing ethics just feeding my addiction fishing poles I only took 8 this time

[MrPukaShell]

I say go to court. Dress nice and fall on the sword. Most likely the Judge will ask you what you have learned and you will tell them that you have read the laws and the experience has made you understand the fish and game laws. You won't get out of the ticket but they will reduce the fine. I had one go down from $500.00 to $150.00 for a Canary Rockfish.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Originally Posted by MrPukaShell

I say go to court. Dress nice and fall on the sword. Most likely the Judge will ask you what you have learned and you will tell them that you have read the laws and the experience has made you understand the fish and game laws. You won't get out of the ticket but they will reduce the fine. I had one go down from $500.00 to $150.00 for a Canary Rockfish.

Its because they want a conviction, PERIOD! The Judges and DA's don't know crap about the DFG rules. They're all corrupt idiots who want your money and a conviction, because thats how they get paid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv4r...&nohtml5=False

Here's the video of my success on Marc Stevens youtube channel he just posted last night. He had me on his radio show on NPR radio yesterday to explain how everything went down. Always go Pro Per (represent yourself), and make them prove jurisdiction (physical proof).

Sure, you can go kiss their ass, and get it reduced, which they tried to reduce my traffic ticket. Instead, I put the burden of proof on them, and they didn't have PROOF of Jurisdiction, and of course had to drop it. STICK IT TO THE MAN AND BE FEARLESS!

[Iceman]

Wait......so WE get to decide if we are guilty or not, not the written law. Wow. People not accepting responsibility for their actions drives me fricken crazy, I consider it part of being a grown up MAN.

You are saying you have to slam into my son or daughter speeding before it is a crime. Some laws are in place to protect the law abiding citizens.

Granted the 2 rod stamp makes no sense to me, that seems you are paying for a privilege. Now 3 rods is an obvious violation.

[Gr8fuldude]

Originally Posted by MrPukaShell

I say go to court. Dress nice and fall on the sword. Most likely the Judge will ask you what you have learned and you will tell them that you have read the laws and the experience has made you understand the fish and game laws. You won't get out of the ticket but they will reduce the fine. I had one go down from $500.00 to $150.00 for a Canary Rockfish.

I'd probably take the approach you suggested, Robert. For me, some grievances are worth fighting the system over, at any cost. A DFG citation where I am in the wrong isn't one of them.

Not that this is the right response (there is no right response for everyone), but for me my peace of mind is probably worth more than a (hopefully reduced) DFG fine.

[TheLowBudget]

Originally Posted by MITCHELL

I never take more than a limit.....I release all the big mouth bass I have good fishing ethics just feeding my addiction fishing poles I only took 8 this time

So if you are such the ethical fisherman why would you knowingly break the law with 3 rods. Id just pay the ticket, you admitted to using 3 rods and you got caught.