Kayak Leash? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Mr. NiceGuy · 04-10-2016, 01:17 PM

Sounds kind of like free-lining a mackerel, only on a bigger scale

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On a more serious note, if the weather is that rough it might be better to consider fishing someplace a little safer?

As a pilot, I always review weather reports in advance so I don't find myself in a situation where I have to foolishly challenge nature. To a certain extent I feel the same way about being out in the ocean in a kayak.

That includes watching not only wind, currents and rough water reports but also the dew point relative to air temperature. When it's within 4 degrees we should be prepared for the sublimation of fog like we've been seeing in LJ lately. Do you know how to navigate if you can't see anything and get disoriented?

Thinking through various potential emergencies and practicing self-rescue is prudent, to say the least.

Orca Winfrey · 04-10-2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy

Sounds kind of like free-lining a mackerel, only on a bigger scale

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On a more serious note, if the weather is that rough it might be better to consider fishing someplace a little safer?

As a pilot, I always review weather reports in advance so I don't find myself in a situation where I have to foolishly challenge nature. To a certain extent I feel the same way about being out in the ocean in a kayak.

That includes watching not only wind, currents and rough water reports but also the dew point relative to air temperature. When it's within 4 degrees we should be prepared for the sublimation of fog like we've been seeing in LJ lately. Do you know how to navigate if you can't see anything and get disoriented?

Thinking through various potential emergencies and practicing self-rescue is prudent, to say the least.

I completely agree about closely monitoring the weather. This time, we got fooled. We had been closely checking reports and there was nothing to indicate those level of winds. We were even monitoring conditions while on the water. It was a lesson well-learned.

Dave Legacy · 04-10-2016, 01:58 PM

Leashing yourself to your kayak just doesn't sound all that safe to me. You could get tangled up and become more likely to drown. There are instances where you wouldn't want to be leashed to your kayak. What if a boat was about to hit you and you needed to bail? Maybe an extreme example, but I don't want anything other than my VHF and PFD attached to me; Those are the items I need to get me out of a pinch.

Harry Hill · 04-10-2016, 03:36 PM

I don't know the answer to this question. I fish by myself a lot so I can see the benefit of having a way to stay connected if you flip. But I also understand the concern about getting tangled, I would hate to have a rope around a foot dragging me along. I know when I was fighting the current the other day in Mission Bay I thought about how fast my boat could drift away. Most people would say don't fish alone but I seem to a lot. At any rate I think about what I would do in different scenarios while I'm out fishing. I hope when the time comes I can put my plans to use successfully. One thing I have is a line on the bow and stern that should give me something to grab even if the yak is out of reach.

2-Stix · 04-10-2016, 04:14 PM

i dont fish alone. i have a radio, cell phone in a water proof case and a global beacon strapped to my chest.

pingpangdang · 04-10-2016, 05:11 PM

anything over 15 knots to include mention of 20 knot gusts etc I'm staying home...I don't have a hobie yet and my yak requires a lot of muscle power to move. Everyone has different physical abilities/strength/endurance but there is a point even an Olympian would be no match for mother nature...or superman.

A few years ago I went out in some pretty sketchy conditions...weather turned bad quick to include wind and current. Played it like a riptide instead of fighting the wind and current I went parallel to the beach to get closer to shore. Took me south a good bit. Once near the breakers but well away from the impact zone I can track back easier than way out in the open ocean fighting all that win d etc. The closer to the shoreline we have cliffs/structure that will help reduce that wind.Just like surfing...all that paddling against the current to stay in the spot. I've surfed some pretty sick conditions during hurricanes etc so I'm pretty comfortable in slop but on a yak your at the peril of mother nature. If you do get stuck in a wind that is unbeatable try the riptide method as long as it's not coming straight from the east...then you are screwed...channel 16.

I have had thoughts about using a leash but I just don't want to get tangled up if I need to boogie

During days when I think I might need some insurance I will pack some churchill bodyboarding fins. They even make smaller versions now that are lighter and more compact and not as big as churchills. I have dakine ankle leashes for these that strap the fins to your ankles.

Give me a pair of fins and I can stay up almost indefinitely and swim to shore if need be.

With all that said the ocean has it's dangers and it's not worth the risk to head out past your abilities. If you don't see anyone out on a kayak and the conditions are questionable don't go.

maquinapescado · 04-10-2016, 06:02 PM

If the conditions are so rough that said event could occur, maybe it isn't even safe enough to be in a boat. If your kayak filled with water in these "conditions" and you were tied to it, I believe you'd be safer in your PFD without your kayak.

04-10-2016, 01:17 PM	#1
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 839	Sounds kind of like free-lining a mackerel, only on a bigger scale --- On a more serious note, if the weather is that rough it might be better to consider fishing someplace a little safer? As a pilot, I always review weather reports in advance so I don't find myself in a situation where I have to foolishly challenge nature. To a certain extent I feel the same way about being out in the ocean in a kayak. That includes watching not only wind, currents and rough water reports but also the dew point relative to air temperature. When it's within 4 degrees we should be prepared for the sublimation of fog like we've been seeing in LJ lately. Do you know how to navigate if you can't see anything and get disoriented? Thinking through various potential emergencies and practicing self-rescue is prudent, to say the least. __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise Last edited by Mr. NiceGuy; 04-10-2016 at 01:27 PM.

04-10-2016, 03:36 PM	#4
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	I don't know the answer to this question. I fish by myself a lot so I can see the benefit of having a way to stay connected if you flip. But I also understand the concern about getting tangled, I would hate to have a rope around a foot dragging me along. I know when I was fighting the current the other day in Mission Bay I thought about how fast my boat could drift away. Most people would say don't fish alone but I seem to a lot. At any rate I think about what I would do in different scenarios while I'm out fishing. I hope when the time comes I can put my plans to use successfully. One thing I have is a line on the bow and stern that should give me something to grab even if the yak is out of reach. __________________ you can't eat it if you release it

04-10-2016, 06:02 PM	#7
maquinapescado Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 326	If the conditions are so rough that said event could occur, maybe it isn't even safe enough to be in a boat. If your kayak filled with water in these "conditions" and you were tied to it, I believe you'd be safer in your PFD without your kayak. __________________ Climb, Surf, Fish, Repeat

04-10-2016, 01:58 PM	#3
Dave Legacy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA Posts: 427	Leashing yourself to your kayak just doesn't sound all that safe to me. You could get tangled up and become more likely to drown. There are instances where you wouldn't want to be leashed to your kayak. What if a boat was about to hit you and you needed to bail? Maybe an extreme example, but I don't want anything other than my VHF and PFD attached to me; Those are the items I need to get me out of a pinch.

04-10-2016, 04:14 PM	#5
2-Stix Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 376	i dont fish alone. i have a radio, cell phone in a water proof case and a global beacon strapped to my chest.

04-10-2016, 05:11 PM	#6
pingpangdang Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 228	anything over 15 knots to include mention of 20 knot gusts etc I'm staying home...I don't have a hobie yet and my yak requires a lot of muscle power to move. Everyone has different physical abilities/strength/endurance but there is a point even an Olympian would be no match for mother nature...or superman. A few years ago I went out in some pretty sketchy conditions...weather turned bad quick to include wind and current. Played it like a riptide instead of fighting the wind and current I went parallel to the beach to get closer to shore. Took me south a good bit. Once near the breakers but well away from the impact zone I can track back easier than way out in the open ocean fighting all that win d etc. The closer to the shoreline we have cliffs/structure that will help reduce that wind.Just like surfing...all that paddling against the current to stay in the spot. I've surfed some pretty sick conditions during hurricanes etc so I'm pretty comfortable in slop but on a yak your at the peril of mother nature. If you do get stuck in a wind that is unbeatable try the riptide method as long as it's not coming straight from the east...then you are screwed...channel 16. I have had thoughts about using a leash but I just don't want to get tangled up if I need to boogie During days when I think I might need some insurance I will pack some churchill bodyboarding fins. They even make smaller versions now that are lighter and more compact and not as big as churchills. I have dakine ankle leashes for these that strap the fins to your ankles. Give me a pair of fins and I can stay up almost indefinitely and swim to shore if need be. With all that said the ocean has it's dangers and it's not worth the risk to head out past your abilities. If you don't see anyone out on a kayak and the conditions are questionable don't go.