"PERMANENT CONSERVATION AREAS!” - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Saba Slayer · 04-14-2016, 10:20 AM

Easy Guys...
There is No BAN on CONICAL Nets planned...or...a Seasonal Limit in the near future. "The sky is not falling"!
These items are not included in the proposed reg package...they are only included in the Lobster FMP appendix. I'm sorry...I get so involved with the process that I forget most folks have no real idea about what is going on with the F & W Department and the F & G Commission and the proposed regs or the MPA's.
The two non-concensus items were added to the appendix so that They Could Be Revisited in Future LAC or Stakeholder Meetings.
This is a reason to stay vigilant on all that the Department and the Commission do, and please return your lobster report cards so that we can use that data to protect our fishing rights.

Sarge...did you buy a fishing license this year?
A simple yes or no please, before we talk about "stones" and the Constitution.

I predict Darkhorse is wrong...at least in my lifetime...although apathy and the uninformed may help us lose many battles along the way...!

Silbaugh4liberty · 04-14-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer

Easy Guys...
There is No BAN on CONICAL Nets planned...or...a Seasonal Limit in the near future. "The sky is not falling"!
These items are not included in the proposed reg package...they are only included in the Lobster FMP appendix. I'm sorry...I get so involved with the process that I forget most folks have no real idea about what is going on with the F & W Department and the F & G Commission and the proposed regs or the MPA's.
The two non-concensus items were added to the appendix so that They Could Be Revisited in Future LAC or Stakeholder Meetings.
This is a reason to stay vigilant on all that the Department and the Commission do, and please return your lobster report cards so that we can use that data to protect our fishing rights.

Sarge...did you buy a fishing license this year?
A simple yes or no please, before we talk about "stones" and the Constitution.

I predict Darkhorse is wrong...at least in my lifetime...although apathy and the uninformed may help us lose many battles along the way...!

Good to go, thanks Jim.

Yes I did. In future years, well....we'll see about that.

I hope you're right, as I completely agree that we must remain vigilant.

Thanks again for your efforts and keeping us informed.

rossman · 04-14-2016, 01:21 PM

I actually can't remember any discussions during the MLPA process that would indicate that these closures were anything but permanent. Not sure if I was so disheartened by the whole process that I just assumed they were permanent or if I was just not in the room when the discussion took place. I did feel that there was a reasonable plan in place to measure their effectiveness using some science that seemed to be lacking in the original process, but now hat appears in jeopardy also. Was anyone here in the room when the lifting of the ban was discussed?

cabojohn · 04-14-2016, 01:48 PM

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I'm positive I recall hearing the MLPA was ONLY for five years...and they were going to take a look at MLPA's after that. A long five years.

Sadly I don't remember which top dawgs said it...and it was repeated often. Not that it matters now?

The entire MLPA scheme was all lies and shit sammiches.
*ALL the scandalous MLPA players past & present should be held accountable. ALL their personal information should be posted online.
Shit could get real quickly for these fools.... WE THE PEOPLE ARE PISSED!

ful-rac · 04-14-2016, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cabojohn

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I'm positive I recall hearing the MLPA was ONLY for five years...and they were going to take a look at MLPA's after that. A long five years.

Sadly I don't remember which top dawgs said it...and it was repeated often. Not that it matters now?

The entire MLPA scheme was all lies and shit sammiches.
*ALL the scandalous MLPA players past & present should be held accountable. ALL their personal information should be posted online.
Shit could get real quickly for these fools.... WE THE PEOPLE ARE PISSED!

Let's go get um!

yemff · 04-22-2016, 05:12 PM

Surprising lack of interest in this thread. But hey, some people probably think this is a good thing.

Saba Slayer · 04-22-2016, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by yemff

Surprising lack of interest in this thread. But hey, some people probably think this is a good thing.

Apathy has a lot of good fisherman sleeping...while the ENGO's are wide awake and attending every DFG and DFW meeting as well as arranging MLPA Collaborative meetings.
I don't think the CCA CAL has cracked 2000 members yet...kinda unbelievable after the MPA closures and the huge fishing population we have here in Southern California.

The CCA CAL L.A. Chapter has it's big fundraiser in May on the 21st....I'll post up the flyer and some info when we get closer.
If anyone is a business owner and you're interested in getting a table for the event, please get in touch with me jim@sabaslayer.com or John Ballotti at ccacalla@yahoo.com

04-14-2016, 10:20 AM	#1
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,870	Easy Guys... Easy Guys... There is No BAN on CONICAL Nets planned...or...a Seasonal Limit in the near future. "The sky is not falling"! These items are not included in the proposed reg package...they are only included in the Lobster FMP appendix. I'm sorry...I get so involved with the process that I forget most folks have no real idea about what is going on with the F & W Department and the F & G Commission and the proposed regs or the MPA's. The two non-concensus items were added to the appendix so that They Could Be Revisited in Future LAC or Stakeholder Meetings. This is a reason to stay vigilant on all that the Department and the Commission do, and please return your lobster report cards so that we can use that data to protect our fishing rights. Sarge...did you buy a fishing license this year? A simple yes or no please, before we talk about "stones" and the Constitution. I predict Darkhorse is wrong...at least in my lifetime...although apathy and the uninformed may help us lose many battles along the way...! __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

04-14-2016, 01:21 PM	#3
rossman Marginally Irrelevant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bahia Asuncion Posts: 936	I actually can't remember any discussions during the MLPA process that would indicate that these closures were anything but permanent. Not sure if I was so disheartened by the whole process that I just assumed they were permanent or if I was just not in the room when the discussion took place. I did feel that there was a reasonable plan in place to measure their effectiveness using some science that seemed to be lacking in the original process, but now hat appears in jeopardy also. Was anyone here in the room when the lifting of the ban was discussed? __________________ "When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean’s skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang. " — Herman Melville Y'all come see me now, hear!

04-14-2016, 01:48 PM	#4
cabojohn PROBATION Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 657	/\ I'm positive I recall hearing the MLPA was ONLY for five years...and they were going to take a look at MLPA's after that. A long five years. Sadly I don't remember which top dawgs said it...and it was repeated often. Not that it matters now? The entire MLPA scheme was all lies and shit sammiches. *ALL the scandalous MLPA players past & present should be held accountable. ALL their personal information should be posted online. Shit could get real quickly for these fools.... WE THE PEOPLE ARE PISSED!

04-22-2016, 05:12 PM	#6
yemff Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 75	Surprising lack of interest in this thread. But hey, some people probably think this is a good thing.