One Batt Only-Expected Life - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Handymansd · 07-12-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig jones

Handyman, do you run your batteries down before you put them on a charger? I know I have always done that with cordless tools.

Yes, I actually store my kayak on the ceiling of my garage / shop by using a 12V portable winch. I finish fishing, then use the left over juice in my batteries to run the winch to lift the kayak to the ceiling. It works great, and no storage problems.

I do keep all of my 10 batteries rotating through a trickle charger though, it doesn't seem to shorten their life or develop any "memory" though. I agree that they all seem to lessen their life over time but as Adi said the shortened life is so minuscule that it doesn't bother me and some of my batteries are like 4 years old and still work just fine.

Handymansd · 07-12-2008, 01:43 PM

For those that really want to know the ins and outs of electrical storage there are a number of good sites on the internet. Here is a really simple explanation of the basic types.

http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm

Depending on your application, heat, storage conditions, etc. you should be able to expect approximately 1000+ charge and discharge cycles. A trickle charger used with AGM or Valve regulated rechargeable batteries WILL permanently damage and result in reduced capacity due to overcharging. Likewise using something like a car charger for a SLA battery will destroy it. I like the Valve regulated rechargeable as they they are equipped with a low pressure venting system, which releases excess pressure from overcharging if necessary.

I have this fascination with a solar powered kayak... Just have not implemented it yet. I will be talking to Doug when I am ready...

dgax65 · 07-12-2008, 04:47 PM

Bad news: the photovoltaic array required to run a FF and pump all day is going to be very large.

Good news: it will be big enough to use it as a sail

Stick with batteries.

sdcityboy · 07-12-2008, 05:06 PM

you gotta see this. cracks me up! but kinda cool

http://www.solarpoweredkayak.com/

Handymansd · 07-12-2008, 05:36 PM

With all of the recent research into Hydrogen power sources, our kayaks and boats stand to get pretty cool indeed! It's still a little rough around the edges, not just the technology, but the way to make hydrogen in an efficient manner. But when we do... we will have some radically cool boats!

Craig jones · 07-13-2008, 08:39 AM

Here is an interesting site on making homemade hydrogen gas generators. Uses 12 volts and water ( a saline solution works well)
http://www.smacksboosters.110mb.com/

07-12-2008, 01:43 PM	#2
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	For those that really want to know the ins and outs of electrical storage there are a number of good sites on the internet. Here is a really simple explanation of the basic types. http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm Depending on your application, heat, storage conditions, etc. you should be able to expect approximately 1000+ charge and discharge cycles. A trickle charger used with AGM or Valve regulated rechargeable batteries WILL permanently damage and result in reduced capacity due to overcharging. Likewise using something like a car charger for a SLA battery will destroy it. I like the Valve regulated rechargeable as they they are equipped with a low pressure venting system, which releases excess pressure from overcharging if necessary. I have this fascination with a solar powered kayak... Just have not implemented it yet. I will be talking to Doug when I am ready... __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

07-12-2008, 04:47 PM	#3
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	Bad news: the photovoltaic array required to run a FF and pump all day is going to be very large. Good news: it will be big enough to use it as a sail Stick with batteries. __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

07-12-2008, 05:06 PM	#4
sdcityboy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: south park (san diego),CA Posts: 119	you gotta see this. cracks me up! but kinda cool http://www.solarpoweredkayak.com/ __________________ he hates these cans!

07-12-2008, 05:36 PM	#5
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	With all of the recent research into Hydrogen power sources, our kayaks and boats stand to get pretty cool indeed! It's still a little rough around the edges, not just the technology, but the way to make hydrogen in an efficient manner. But when we do... we will have some radically cool boats! __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

07-13-2008, 08:39 AM	#6
Craig jones Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 27	Here is an interesting site on making homemade hydrogen gas generators. Uses 12 volts and water ( a saline solution works well) http://www.smacksboosters.110mb.com/