Concerning la jolla kayak launch area - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dsafety · 08-25-2016, 03:34 PM

The LJ Shores boat launch area is the only place in San Diego County where one can legally drive a vehicle on the beach and launch a boat. As far as I know, it is not closed to swimmers, at least it never was when I was a lifeguard on that beach many years ago.

Due to the nearby canyon, it is also a popular place for divers to enter the water. Always has been. Divers are swimmers... sort of. Many of the tourists who patronize the kayak rental services spend as much their time in the water chasing the kayak that they have just fallen out of. Again swimmers, sort of.

Normally swimmers, divers, kayakers and other boaters figure out a way to coexist but at high tide on a crowded summer day, this can be a real challenge.

South of the launch is the Beach and Tennis Club. Established in 1927 it is one of the few private beaches in San Diego. The club is responsible for the area and for the safety of their guests when swimming on their beach. They do not take kindly to kayaks trespassing on their property thus the attitude that you experienced.

The bottom line is that it is what it is. Not a great situation but it is what we have.

Bob

kirkdavis · 08-25-2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dsafety

The LJ Shores boat launch area is the only place in San Diego County where one can legally drive a vehicle on the beach and launch a boat. As far as I know, it is not closed to swimmers, at least it never was when I was a lifeguard on that beach many years ago.

Due to the nearby canyon, it is also a popular place for divers to enter the water. Always has been. Divers are swimmers... sort of. Many of the tourists who patronize the kayak rental services spend as much their time in the water chasing the kayak that they have just fallen out of. Again swimmers, sort of.

Normally swimmers, divers, kayakers and other boaters figure out a way to coexist but at high tide on a crowded summer day, this can be a real challenge.

South of the launch is the Beach and Tennis Club. Established in 1927 it is one of the few private beaches in San Diego. The club is responsible for the area and for the safety of their guests when swimming on their beach. They do not take kindly to kayaks trespassing on their property thus the attitude that you experienced.

The bottom line is that it is what it is. Not a great situation but it is what we have.

Bob

Thanks for the Information and history lesson. I will try not to infringe on the private beach in the future. There is a wealth of knowledge among the members of this forum.

Zed · 08-25-2016, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dsafety

The LJ Shores boat launch area is the only place in San Diego County where one can legally drive a vehicle on the beach and launch a boat. As far as I know, it is not closed to swimmers, at least it never was when I was a lifeguard on that beach many years ago.

Due to the nearby canyon, it is also a popular place for divers to enter the water. Always has been. Divers are swimmers... sort of. Many of the tourists who patronize the kayak rental services spend as much their time in the water chasing the kayak that they have just fallen out of. Again swimmers, sort of.

Normally swimmers, divers, kayakers and other boaters figure out a way to coexist but at high tide on a crowded summer day, this can be a real challenge.

South of the launch is the Beach and Tennis Club. Established in 1927 it is one of the few private beaches in San Diego. The club is responsible for the area and for the safety of their guests when swimming on their beach. They do not take kindly to kayaks trespassing on their property thus the attitude that you experienced.

The bottom line is that it is what it is. Not a great situation but it is what we have.

Bob

Nice.
Just want to add that we should do what we can and not be confrontational -to lgs or ljb&tc. Last thing we want is the perception that kayak fisherman are the problem.

yemff · 08-25-2016, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dsafety

The LJ Shores boat launch area is the only place in San Diego County where one can legally drive a vehicle on the beach and launch a boat. As far as I know, it is not closed to swimmers, at least it never was when I was a lifeguard on that beach many years ago.

Due to the nearby canyon, it is also a popular place for divers to enter the water. Always has been. Divers are swimmers... sort of. Many of the tourists who patronize the kayak rental services spend as much their time in the water chasing the kayak that they have just fallen out of. Again swimmers, sort of.

Normally swimmers, divers, kayakers and other boaters figure out a way to coexist but at high tide on a crowded summer day, this can be a real challenge.

South of the launch is the Beach and Tennis Club. Established in 1927 it is one of the few private beaches in San Diego. The club is responsible for the area and for the safety of their guests when swimming on their beach. They do not take kindly to kayaks trespassing on their property thus the attitude that you experienced.

The bottom line is that it is what it is. Not a great situation but it is what we have.

Bob

As far as I know the beach below the mean high tide line is public land.

iethinker · 08-25-2016, 06:57 PM

So about six weeks ago, I dodged some swimmers there and ended up landing outside of the yellow pole to the south. Of course the lifeguards were there to chastise me for not using the designated boat launch area.

Reiner · 08-25-2016, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by yemff

As far as I know the beach below the mean high tide line is public land.

That is correct. Any private beach in this state ends where the sand is wet or damp. All beaches below the high tide line are public

taggermike · 08-25-2016, 07:52 PM

Don't know the legalities but a few times this summer I have seen the LGs telling the rental boogie boarders and snorkelers to move out of the launch area. Not often tho. Landings are hard enough some times with out having to dodge clueless folks.

GregAndrew · 08-25-2016, 08:13 PM

Each city can impose their own rules for their beaches. Many popular surf beaches will have no swimming or wading rules. The same seems to be true of the LJ kayak and skiff launch. I have heard the LGs, several times, tell swimmers, skin divers and waders they need to move out of the area. Same with them telling kayakers not to launch/land North of the last rental kayak area (surfing) or South of the telephone poles (private). They also keep visitors from camping on the beach access roads. Generally they are not going to bother with most of these rules, except when the place gets busy and it can be dangerous. With the popularity of kayaking and paddle boarding, it is only going to get worse with all the competing companies putting more gear on the beaches. Better to learn to roll with the punches and educate other folks loading on the beach how and where to park and load. And go early to save yourself half the frustration.

MITCHELL · 08-25-2016, 08:40 PM

No wading allowed in kayak launching area would be nice

good information thanks.

skrilla · 08-26-2016, 05:25 AM

Swimmers 5 points. Boogie boarders 10 points. Chick with at least C cups 50 points. Bonus round if you snag their top.

08-25-2016, 06:57 PM	#5
iethinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 370	Yeah So about six weeks ago, I dodged some swimmers there and ended up landing outside of the yellow pole to the south. Of course the lifeguards were there to chastise me for not using the designated boat launch area.

08-25-2016, 08:40 PM	#9
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,282	A sign that say........ No wading allowed in kayak launching area would be nicegood information thanks. __________________ Duke Mitchell Last edited by MITCHELL; 08-25-2016 at 08:57 PM.

08-26-2016, 05:25 AM	#10
skrilla Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 664	Swimmers 5 points. Boogie boarders 10 points. Chick with at least C cups 50 points. Bonus round if you snag their top. __________________ Urban Camo Trident 13

08-25-2016, 03:34 PM	#1
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	The LJ Shores boat launch area is the only place in San Diego County where one can legally drive a vehicle on the beach and launch a boat. As far as I know, it is not closed to swimmers, at least it never was when I was a lifeguard on that beach many years ago. Due to the nearby canyon, it is also a popular place for divers to enter the water. Always has been. Divers are swimmers... sort of. Many of the tourists who patronize the kayak rental services spend as much their time in the water chasing the kayak that they have just fallen out of. Again swimmers, sort of. Normally swimmers, divers, kayakers and other boaters figure out a way to coexist but at high tide on a crowded summer day, this can be a real challenge. South of the launch is the Beach and Tennis Club. Established in 1927 it is one of the few private beaches in San Diego. The club is responsible for the area and for the safety of their guests when swimming on their beach. They do not take kindly to kayaks trespassing on their property thus the attitude that you experienced. The bottom line is that it is what it is. Not a great situation but it is what we have. Bob

08-25-2016, 07:52 PM	#7
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Don't know the legalities but a few times this summer I have seen the LGs telling the rental boogie boarders and snorkelers to move out of the launch area. Not often tho. Landings are hard enough some times with out having to dodge clueless folks.

08-25-2016, 08:13 PM	#8
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Each city can impose their own rules for their beaches. Many popular surf beaches will have no swimming or wading rules. The same seems to be true of the LJ kayak and skiff launch. I have heard the LGs, several times, tell swimmers, skin divers and waders they need to move out of the area. Same with them telling kayakers not to launch/land North of the last rental kayak area (surfing) or South of the telephone poles (private). They also keep visitors from camping on the beach access roads. Generally they are not going to bother with most of these rules, except when the place gets busy and it can be dangerous. With the popularity of kayaking and paddle boarding, it is only going to get worse with all the competing companies putting more gear on the beaches. Better to learn to roll with the punches and educate other folks loading on the beach how and where to park and load. And go early to save yourself half the frustration.