NPH Coast Gaurd Launch Fines! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ful-rac · 06-26-2018, 09:45 AM

One by one our access to launching locations are restricted and or taken away...I get a bad feeling redondo is next with the city's stupid insane waterfront project. Kayakers are definitely not welcome...

DPevin · 06-26-2018, 09:58 AM

This is so dumb and makes no sense. Perfectly good place to launch a kayak and park and not bother anyone or be in the way. Now what? we are going to have to go to the island or peninsula and add to the already horrendous parking and traffic situations there?

Sure would have been nice of them to put this out there before deciding on it so that we could have a say...

Zed · 06-26-2018, 10:03 AM

Newport Dunes Launch Ramp is only 40min from the harbormouth at the posted no wake speed of 5mph.

fourtogo · 06-26-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zed

Newport Dunes Launch Ramp is only 40min from the harbormouth at the posted no wake speed of 5mph.

Zed you got to be kidding , in my boat at 5mph up to the CC area would take a hour easy .

steve999 · 06-26-2018, 02:01 PM

In the link to the city website, did you notice this clause:

"No trailers, dollies, rollers or other mechanical devices may be used for purposes of launching any vessel or watercraft at such locations, or for transporting them on beaches."

So even at the legal locations, they won't allow kayaks that use wheels, which is pretty much everybody.

This sounds like something the California coastal commission should be involved in. They have been eliminating local ordinances that restrict access to the ocean for years.

wiredantz · 06-26-2018, 02:03 PM

I work in the city's Harbor division. I would be happy to answer your questions if you would like to give me a call 949-718-3429.

Thank You,
Jessica D. Allen

The City of Newport Beach

1600 W. Balboa Blvd. Newport Beach, CA 92663
949-718-3429 | jdallen@newportbeachca.gov

Zed · 06-26-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fourtogo

Zed you got to be kidding , in my boat at 5mph up to the CC area would take a hour easy .

Yeah sarcasm. I italiciZed only. When I was trying to read up on this I came across that stat. It seemed real low re a kayak for sure.

Silbaugh4liberty · 06-26-2018, 10:05 AM

I guess I got that Launch all to myself then!!! Last traffic ticket (expired Drivers License) Judge told me it was a misdemeanor (potentially 6 months in jail), and how would I like to plea. So I handed him a Affidavit which I filed on the record advising him that I was going to File Felony Charges against him if I was deprived of my rights under color of Law Pursuant to Title 42 USC 1983. (I'll see you're misdemeanor and raise you a FELONY!! ) He could've been looking at a minimum of a year in Federal Prison and 100k fine!

CASE DISMISSED!

Know your rights people and there's nothing to worry about.

wiredantz · 06-26-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Silbaugh4liberty

I guess I got that Launch all to myself then!!! Last traffic ticket (expired Drivers License) Judge told me it was a misdemeanor (potentially 6 months in jail), and how would I like to plea. So I handed him a Affidavit which I filed on the record advising him that I was going to File Felony Charges against him if I was deprived of my rights under color of Law Pursuant to Title 42 USC 1983. (I'll see you're misdemeanor and raise you a FELONY!! ) He could've been looking at a minimum of a year in Federal Prison and 100k fine!

CASE DISMISSED!

Know your rights people and there's nothing to worry about.

You are right...

These Municipal Codes are statutory rule violations.
There are no injured partys.
You are correct… these are statutory regulations and police can cite you on statutory regulations, it is their job.
What they do is against our Constitutional Rights because there is no injured partys for them to take us to court and there is no written contract.

But if you get a ticket… you still need to spend your personal time/money preparing for the court… writing a Demur on why the court should not hear the case…. Write in for Judicial Notice and Discovery and Brady Request… It’s a lot of non-paid time … for the harassment we receive….

The officer can just write the ticket and then get paid for showing up to court… not knowing anything but what statue was broken, There is no crime without the rule….

That given said… I can probably assume most kayakers live check to check.. they are not going to take the time to fight these regulations and so these Large City just Trample over them.

Kayaking and traveling by water way is so old that it has Been our right since the birth of time…. But now they want to subject us to their laws by making us sign a Boater card license and take a class….

Now if the City can prove, it is their own private property…. I think that would change the story… Is it public land or private land?

The problem is that I don’t know the History there… was that Man made.. is it considered Private Property…?

stevie951 · 06-26-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wiredantz

You are right...

Now if the City can prove, it is their own private property…. I think that would change the story… Is it public land or private land?

The problem is that I don’t know the History there… was that Man made.. is it considered Private Property…?

If it is private, then the same rules and regs need to be applied to those outriggers and their owners..

Like you said, our rights are being trampled on, and it is upon us to stand up for them..

jorluivil · 06-26-2018, 10:50 AM

I wish i had admin rights to close threads but not all of them though, just the ones that Frank is on

TheBentRod · 06-26-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

I wish i had admin rights to close threads but not all of them though, just the ones that Frank is on

What do you have to say about Frank now Jorge?

jorluivil · 06-26-2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBentRod

What do you have to say about Frank now Jorge?

I'd still close it just because it's my buddy Frank

Silbaugh4liberty · 06-27-2018, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBentRod

What do you have to say about Frank now Jorge?

Is that Stan? Better watch out, I'm gonna bump into your kayak next time on the water!! LOL, JK

BTW, hopefully Rich left us some lings at that spot!!

Ggiannig89 · 06-26-2018, 11:24 AM

It might be a good idea to contact fish and wildlife. Access is a big part of keeping fisherman fishing. Less Fishing license sold means lower budget for fish and wildlife. There’s a direct bill from the federal government that provides grants to building ramps, docks, and launches to provide access. I don’t recall this grant but a fish and wildlife manager might be familiar.

06-26-2018, 09:45 AM	#1
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	One by one our access to launching locations are restricted and or taken away...I get a bad feeling redondo is next with the city's stupid insane waterfront project. Kayakers are definitely not welcome... __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

06-26-2018, 10:03 AM	#3
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	Newport Dunes Launch Ramp is only 40min from the harbormouth at the posted no wake speed of 5mph. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

06-26-2018, 02:03 PM	#6
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	I got a name and PHONE NUMBER AND ADDRESS I work in the city's Harbor division. I would be happy to answer your questions if you would like to give me a call 949-718-3429. Thank You, Jessica D. Allen The City of Newport Beach 1600 W. Balboa Blvd. Newport Beach, CA 92663 949-718-3429 \| jdallen@newportbeachca.gov __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

06-26-2018, 10:05 AM	#8
Silbaugh4liberty Fishing Patriot Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,121	I guess I got that Launch all to myself then!!! Last traffic ticket (expired Drivers License) Judge told me it was a misdemeanor (potentially 6 months in jail), and how would I like to plea. So I handed him a Affidavit which I filed on the record advising him that I was going to File Felony Charges against him if I was deprived of my rights under color of Law Pursuant to Title 42 USC 1983. (I'll see you're misdemeanor and raise you a FELONY!! ) He could've been looking at a minimum of a year in Federal Prison and 100k fine! CASE DISMISSED! Know your rights people and there's nothing to worry about. __________________

06-26-2018, 10:50 AM	#11
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I wish i had admin rights to close threads but not all of them though, just the ones that Frank is on __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

06-26-2018, 09:58 AM	#2
DPevin Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dana Point Posts: 96	This is so dumb and makes no sense. Perfectly good place to launch a kayak and park and not bother anyone or be in the way. Now what? we are going to have to go to the island or peninsula and add to the already horrendous parking and traffic situations there? Sure would have been nice of them to put this out there before deciding on it so that we could have a say...

06-26-2018, 02:01 PM	#5
steve999 Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 39	In the link to the city website, did you notice this clause: "No trailers, dollies, rollers or other mechanical devices may be used for purposes of launching any vessel or watercraft at such locations, or for transporting them on beaches." So even at the legal locations, they won't allow kayaks that use wheels, which is pretty much everybody. This sounds like something the California coastal commission should be involved in. They have been eliminating local ordinances that restrict access to the ocean for years.

06-26-2018, 11:24 AM	#15
Ggiannig89 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: El Cajon Posts: 512	It might be a good idea to contact fish and wildlife. Access is a big part of keeping fisherman fishing. Less Fishing license sold means lower budget for fish and wildlife. There’s a direct bill from the federal government that provides grants to building ramps, docks, and launches to provide access. I don’t recall this grant but a fish and wildlife manager might be familiar.