CA $crews it up again - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Mahigeer · 09-07-2018, 03:59 PM

I received the email this morning and you beat me to posting it.

So if you don't mind;

The California Sportfishing League is not giving up!

They did give up is what I read.

Next year, California will have a new Governor. Perhaps, under different leadership, the prospect of reform is more likely.

Kindly explain what was Mr. Brown's roll in failure of the bill to pass. Thanks.

rossman · 09-07-2018, 06:28 PM

Almost zero chance that a bill gets to the governors desk without significant, guaranteed increase in revenue to the state. Less than zero chance that he will sign it without significant guaranteed increase in revenue for the state if it happens to get to his desk. But good questions Hashem.

Flounder · 09-07-2018, 07:46 PM

Yeah who cares about normal people, but with the 3 billion they are adding to the CA tab with the "bail reform" bill they passed, this state sucks donkey and is already a criminal safe haven, I feel they don't want much that is common sense. I'm embarrassed and ashamed to live here under this states rules and regs.

Mahigeer · 09-07-2018, 10:37 PM

On the other hand, I am glad to live here.

FISH11 · 09-08-2018, 08:12 AM

I received the email about the results from CSL, so I knew before this post. I will tell you the same thing I put to them in my reason to be unsubscribed. The post made it sound as if the whole reason for the pulling of the bill was solely due to the Governor or the Democratic party. Regardless of ones political persuasion, it is stupid to think that is the real reason, when instead the problem just as in Washington, it's all about somebody is making lot's of money the way things are. The last thing these people want to do is share any of that money. There is no reason to have added to the bill that there should be an increase in cost for the option to buy it as a 12 month license instead of always ending on December 31st. The cost of the license is not the issue of declining purchases. It has more to do with all the other increased cost of everything we have to buy and wages not keeping up. When studies have shown the the average american has the same buying power they had in 1974. Wages suck, but the car that was $3000 in 1974 is now $27,000, so from $5 to $48 for a license is hardly the reason. Blame all politicians for always trying to get more from the hard working American (politicians are not in that category)

DPevin · 09-10-2018, 12:02 PM

All I know is I was just in Idaho visiting my parents....my dad paid only $38 for a combo hunting/fishing license.

Those of us who care enough to buy our license every year at the beginning of the year it won't make a difference for us so long as we retain the option to buy the calendar year license. So let them charge more, why oppose it?

Although, I don't see how a 12 month option would be the answer to raising participation. Seems like the folks it would matter for would be more inclined to get the shorter term licenses anyway.

Mahigeer · 09-10-2018, 02:19 PM

There must be good reason why vehicle license plate tags are not from Jan-Dec.

Drivers license, Contractors license, passports, Sentri card……...etc.. etc.

The list is very long.

I know personally Utah and BC, Canada have 12 month fishing licenses.

For those who are hooked and honest, the cost of license makes little difference.

A great Xmas gift is the yearly fishing license given by the family members to the angler for now.

My feeling is that we will have it eventually.

09-07-2018, 06:28 PM	#2
rossman Marginally Irrelevant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bahia Asuncion Posts: 936	Almost zero chance that a bill gets to the governors desk without significant, guaranteed increase in revenue to the state. Less than zero chance that he will sign it without significant guaranteed increase in revenue for the state if it happens to get to his desk. But good questions Hashem. __________________ "When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean’s skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang. " — Herman Melville Y'all come see me now, hear!

09-08-2018, 08:12 AM	#5
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	I received the email about the results from CSL, so I knew before this post. I will tell you the same thing I put to them in my reason to be unsubscribed. The post made it sound as if the whole reason for the pulling of the bill was solely due to the Governor or the Democratic party. Regardless of ones political persuasion, it is stupid to think that is the real reason, when instead the problem just as in Washington, it's all about somebody is making lot's of money the way things are. The last thing these people want to do is share any of that money. There is no reason to have added to the bill that there should be an increase in cost for the option to buy it as a 12 month license instead of always ending on December 31st. The cost of the license is not the issue of declining purchases. It has more to do with all the other increased cost of everything we have to buy and wages not keeping up. When studies have shown the the average american has the same buying power they had in 1974. Wages suck, but the car that was $3000 in 1974 is now $27,000, so from $5 to $48 for a license is hardly the reason. Blame all politicians for always trying to get more from the hard working American (politicians are not in that category) __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

09-07-2018, 03:59 PM	#1
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,908	I received the email this morning and you beat me to posting it. So if you don't mind; The California Sportfishing League is not giving up! They did give up is what I read. Next year, California will have a new Governor. Perhaps, under different leadership, the prospect of reform is more likely. Kindly explain what was Mr. Brown's roll in failure of the bill to pass. Thanks.

09-07-2018, 07:46 PM	#3
Flounder Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 101	Yeah who cares about normal people, but with the 3 billion they are adding to the CA tab with the "bail reform" bill they passed, this state sucks donkey and is already a criminal safe haven, I feel they don't want much that is common sense. I'm embarrassed and ashamed to live here under this states rules and regs.

09-07-2018, 10:37 PM	#4
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,908	On the other hand, I am glad to live here.

09-10-2018, 12:02 PM	#6
DPevin Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dana Point Posts: 96	All I know is I was just in Idaho visiting my parents....my dad paid only $38 for a combo hunting/fishing license. Those of us who care enough to buy our license every year at the beginning of the year it won't make a difference for us so long as we retain the option to buy the calendar year license. So let them charge more, why oppose it? Although, I don't see how a 12 month option would be the answer to raising participation. Seems like the folks it would matter for would be more inclined to get the shorter term licenses anyway.

09-10-2018, 02:19 PM	#7
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,908	There must be good reason why vehicle license plate tags are not from Jan-Dec. Drivers license, Contractors license, passports, Sentri card……...etc.. etc. The list is very long. I know personally Utah and BC, Canada have 12 month fishing licenses. For those who are hooked and honest, the cost of license makes little difference. A great Xmas gift is the yearly fishing license given by the family members to the angler for now. My feeling is that we will have it eventually.