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tomahawk · 12-09-2020, 06:43 PM

In general the Old Sabre number scheme has been adopted by many makers for glass rods (I think they were the first ones with the scheme). The general scheme is the last two digits indicate the length. 270, 670, 870 are all 7 foot. 865 and 665 are 6.5 feet. Then the base rods were available in alternate weights, L,H,XH,XXH,XXXH and so on. Finally, a few rods were also available in alternate lengths, like you could get a 270H8(my favorite 20 to 25lb rod, a Heavy 270 8 foot long). The 670 was also available in a 8 foot version (670-8). I am reasonably sure the longer versions just had an extra foot on butt section. I also love the 196-8 for a 15lb live bait rod. In general, I think of the rods like this 196(15lb), 270(20), 870(25), 670(30). The L takes off about 5 LB and the H adds about 5 or 10. I am old and my back hurts, so if I need to fish 40 I use a 665H for bait. For tossing jigs, I'd probably go to one of the 9 foot rods (the number is escaping me, 690 maybe). I never really had a jig rod beyond my 270H8 and 670.

12-09-2020, 06:43 PM	#11
tomahawk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 109	In general the Old Sabre number scheme has been adopted by many makers for glass rods (I think they were the first ones with the scheme). The general scheme is the last two digits indicate the length. 270, 670, 870 are all 7 foot. 865 and 665 are 6.5 feet. Then the base rods were available in alternate weights, L,H,XH,XXH,XXXH and so on. Finally, a few rods were also available in alternate lengths, like you could get a 270H8(my favorite 20 to 25lb rod, a Heavy 270 8 foot long). The 670 was also available in a 8 foot version (670-8). I am reasonably sure the longer versions just had an extra foot on butt section. I also love the 196-8 for a 15lb live bait rod. In general, I think of the rods like this 196(15lb), 270(20), 870(25), 670(30). The L takes off about 5 LB and the H adds about 5 or 10. I am old and my back hurts, so if I need to fish 40 I use a 665H for bait. For tossing jigs, I'd probably go to one of the 9 foot rods (the number is escaping me, 690 maybe). I never really had a jig rod beyond my 270H8 and 670.