Flipped in San Diego bay. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dsafety · 08-15-2009, 07:17 PM

It sounds to me that Mr. Tranquility is a stand up guy who has probably learned from this incident. The kayaker is probably really pissed off and that is understandable but I bet he does not understand how lucky he is that people came to his aid. Without a PFD, he could have been toast.

I do not defend the fact that the sportfisher was probably going too fast for the conditions. I suspect that next time he will dial things down a notch. On the other hand, as someone mentioned, there are cruise ships and Navy boats galore out there and they are not bound by the "yield to unpowered boats" rules. We in the tiny plastic boats need to keep our eyes open. In my mind, kayaking in a busy shipping channel is kind of like riding a motorcycle on a busy freeway.

The bottom line is we all have to turn on our brains before we get out on the water. Kayakers need to be careful and power boaters need to be courteous. As someone said earlier in this post... What goes around, comes around. That is a good thought to live by.

Bob

Gino · 08-15-2009, 07:55 PM

shit happpends

last time a boat got that clsoe and almsot flipped me, he got a free

but he didnt like how he got it!

Be safe out thier folks!

PAL · 08-15-2009, 08:13 PM

That's a stand up post by Tranquility, who got anything but for his trouble. I don't see this so cut and dried. We kayakers have to take personal responsibility too, and limit our exposure.

I'd like to hear the other side of the story, but going from what we have here, Tranquility might be responsible but the fault is not his alone.

It doesn't matter what kind of wake Tranquility throws, anyone out in busy SD Bay channel traffic better be able to ride some steep ones out. Those who can't are best off fishing the edges, or at the very least leashing anything you want to keep. To the unfortunate flipper, if you're reading this and still new to the sport, try somewhere a bit less busy. Tidelands is great, and if you don't mind a bit of fugly water, you'll rack up a great score in the south bay.

Hey Tranquility, thanks for posting - it would have been easier to write the whole thing off and move on. How'd the tuna bite?

steveooo · 08-15-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAL

anyone out in busy SD Bay channel traffic better be able to ride some steep ones out. Those who can't are best off fishing the edges, or at the very least leashing anything you want to keep. To the unfortunate flipper, if you're reading this and still new to the sport, try somewhere a bit less busy. Tidelands is great, and if you don't mind a bit of fugly water, you'll rack up a great score in the south bay.

Hey Tranquility, thanks for posting - it would have been easier to write the whole thing off and move on. How'd the tuna bite?

X2

I've seen yakers do some dumb stuff near PB's, both inside and outside the bay.

Good stand-up post Tranquility.

Be safe out there.

kareem korn · 08-16-2009, 07:35 AM

Maybe like a flag we put on our sand toys in glamis would be a good thing on a kayak. If the kayaker was seen there probably wouldn't have been an incident.

habanero · 08-16-2009, 09:47 AM

Strap on your PFD and lock down your gear folks! If you think the bay is congested now, wait until they close la Jolla! Kayak's skiff's of all skill levels, will increase to much more dangerous levels and seeing them much farther out will become a common sight. We all love the ocean and will do what it takes to enjoy it in what ever water craft we can manage. Perhaps after we see a few deaths or serois injury due to lak of save kayak access, we can expect new laws that further restrict our small minority.

CurtyL · 08-16-2009, 07:44 PM

The guy is being straight up here. Thanks. Was it in the channel? My only beef with the prop and screw gang in the big bay is that outside the channels some of them don't really know the difference. Anything in the channel is fair game in my opinion. Cross at your own risk. Outside the green and the red, don't be a dickhead. We're all getting along doing our drift thang, then Joe Motor Boat who is in such a hurry to land those 2Lb calcs and 22" flatties out on the Point that he could care less about yaks, skiffs, sunfish or whatever. All I know is you have to park your boat someplace. And if you piss me off enough, there is no length I will not go to to find it. What would you do if someone sank you? All I'm saying is if you want to haul ass then by all means do so - just do it in the channel... PS the bay is a huge place. It is not dangerous. LJ is ten times worse on a small day. Tranquility, the more a read you post the more BS I find in it, you were cutting corners trying to save gas. Don't kid a kidder MF'er.

08-15-2009, 07:17 PM	#1
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	It sounds to me that Mr. Tranquility is a stand up guy who has probably learned from this incident. The kayaker is probably really pissed off and that is understandable but I bet he does not understand how lucky he is that people came to his aid. Without a PFD, he could have been toast. I do not defend the fact that the sportfisher was probably going too fast for the conditions. I suspect that next time he will dial things down a notch. On the other hand, as someone mentioned, there are cruise ships and Navy boats galore out there and they are not bound by the "yield to unpowered boats" rules. We in the tiny plastic boats need to keep our eyes open. In my mind, kayaking in a busy shipping channel is kind of like riding a motorcycle on a busy freeway. The bottom line is we all have to turn on our brains before we get out on the water. Kayakers need to be careful and power boaters need to be courteous. As someone said earlier in this post... What goes around, comes around. That is a good thought to live by. Bob Last edited by dsafety; 08-16-2009 at 09:05 AM.

08-16-2009, 07:44 PM	#7
CurtyL Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: wherever the college girlz r Posts: 127	The guy is being straight up here. Thanks. Was it in the channel? My only beef with the prop and screw gang in the big bay is that outside the channels some of them don't really know the difference. Anything in the channel is fair game in my opinion. Cross at your own risk. Outside the green and the red, don't be a dickhead. We're all getting along doing our drift thang, then Joe Motor Boat who is in such a hurry to land those 2Lb calcs and 22" flatties out on the Point that he could care less about yaks, skiffs, sunfish or whatever. All I know is you have to park your boat someplace. And if you piss me off enough, there is no length I will not go to to find it. What would you do if someone sank you? All I'm saying is if you want to haul ass then by all means do so - just do it in the channel... PS the bay is a huge place. It is not dangerous. LJ is ten times worse on a small day. Tranquility, the more a read you post the more BS I find in it, you were cutting corners trying to save gas. Don't kid a kidder MF'er. Last edited by CurtyL; 08-16-2009 at 08:41 PM. Reason: sick of BS

08-15-2009, 07:55 PM	#2
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	shit happpends last time a boat got that clsoe and almsot flipped me, he got a free but he didnt like how he got it! Be safe out thier folks!

08-15-2009, 08:13 PM	#3
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	That's a stand up post by Tranquility, who got anything but for his trouble. I don't see this so cut and dried. We kayakers have to take personal responsibility too, and limit our exposure. I'd like to hear the other side of the story, but going from what we have here, Tranquility might be responsible but the fault is not his alone. It doesn't matter what kind of wake Tranquility throws, anyone out in busy SD Bay channel traffic better be able to ride some steep ones out. Those who can't are best off fishing the edges, or at the very least leashing anything you want to keep. To the unfortunate flipper, if you're reading this and still new to the sport, try somewhere a bit less busy. Tidelands is great, and if you don't mind a bit of fugly water, you'll rack up a great score in the south bay. Hey Tranquility, thanks for posting - it would have been easier to write the whole thing off and move on. How'd the tuna bite?

08-16-2009, 07:35 AM	#5
kareem korn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bad Posts: 431	Maybe like a flag we put on our sand toys in glamis would be a good thing on a kayak. If the kayaker was seen there probably wouldn't have been an incident.

08-16-2009, 09:47 AM	#6
habanero Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SD Posts: 133	Strap on your PFD and lock down your gear folks! If you think the bay is congested now, wait until they close la Jolla! Kayak's skiff's of all skill levels, will increase to much more dangerous levels and seeing them much farther out will become a common sight. We all love the ocean and will do what it takes to enjoy it in what ever water craft we can manage. Perhaps after we see a few deaths or serois injury due to lak of save kayak access, we can expect new laws that further restrict our small minority.