We thought LJ and the SMM were safe - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

forcefed · 09-09-2009, 10:22 AM

im with rob on this one,
at this point in the process, were screwed no matter what. At this point we should be looking at the appeals process.
It makes me wonder if we had boycotted this process from the beginning, and they had no cross interest assistance in the development, if this whole thing would be looked at as a joke. Instead we can read from them "we have worked together to create this" and we have...
You can just sit there quietly, speak about "your preferd map" thats exactly what they want you to do.
or you can make a statement that will make an impact, maybe even rattle someones nerves
we joined in on this only to become tools of the process.

I for one declare revolt against the dfg and would call them out by name and demand those involved be held accountable.

JrBasser · 09-09-2009, 01:44 PM

I am really hoping I can make it, but I won't know till later tonight!

We had the worst harrassment trying to launch at the childrens pool this past weekend. The beach next to the childrens pool had some narly surf, so we took advantage of the pool to launch. despite the fact that no seals were on the beach, and the farthest we got was to the end of the steps, we had a lady filming us rigging lines at our car making phone calls to report us for "purposfully flushing over 100 seals off the beach." She even claimed to have a witness. The funny thing is "her witness" was the only one there when we arrived. After a few TMZ paparrazzi jokes from my brother as we walked down the stairs with a camera in our face, she even made a comment as to how badly she wanted to push me down the stairs as I walked past her. It's kind of sad that we are at this big of a risk of losing our favorite pasttime, yet the evidence against us is, for the most part, a load of shit. Especially when the harrassment on a fellow HUMAN is even worse than any fisherman would intentionally do to a seal.

GregAndrew · 09-09-2009, 07:32 PM

I am sure the maps would have looked very much the way they do now without any input from our side. The differences that have and hopefully will continue to be made are minor adjustments to the MPAs but major adjustments to our ability to continue fishing while the legal challenges are being mounted and fought. If none of our guys had fought the good fight we would not be fishing La Jolla, North Palos Verdes, or Malibu at all. The drivers of this process have been hell bent on taking a huge portion of our best habitats, and nothing we did would have stopped them. They have changed almost every rule they have come up with and ignored most of the "Science" involved in creating Marine Reserves. But we need to keep bumping them as they drop their cookie cutter molds into the ocean so that we have something left.

tylerdurden · 09-09-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew

I am sure the maps would have looked very much the way they do now without any input from our side. ...

After seeing some of the areas on the maps tonight I would say that is very wrong. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and we have made a lot of noise. A lot of areas are in a huge amount of trouble, but some areas that alot of people have spoken strongly for are being spared.

Billy V · 09-10-2009, 04:49 AM

I just gave 1 more Glance at The La Jolla Shores Webcam.

-Its all the motivation you will need for Todays Mission.
See You There.

Billy V
OUT.

09-09-2009, 10:22 AM	#1
forcefed Junior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: West of the Rockies Posts: 7	im with rob on this one, at this point in the process, were screwed no matter what. At this point we should be looking at the appeals process. It makes me wonder if we had boycotted this process from the beginning, and they had no cross interest assistance in the development, if this whole thing would be looked at as a joke. Instead we can read from them "we have worked together to create this" and we have... You can just sit there quietly, speak about "your preferd map" thats exactly what they want you to do. or you can make a statement that will make an impact, maybe even rattle someones nerves we joined in on this only to become tools of the process. I for one declare revolt against the dfg and would call them out by name and demand those involved be held accountable.

09-09-2009, 01:44 PM	#2
JrBasser Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 260	I am really hoping I can make it, but I won't know till later tonight! We had the worst harrassment trying to launch at the childrens pool this past weekend. The beach next to the childrens pool had some narly surf, so we took advantage of the pool to launch. despite the fact that no seals were on the beach, and the farthest we got was to the end of the steps, we had a lady filming us rigging lines at our car making phone calls to report us for "purposfully flushing over 100 seals off the beach." She even claimed to have a witness. The funny thing is "her witness" was the only one there when we arrived. After a few TMZ paparrazzi jokes from my brother as we walked down the stairs with a camera in our face, she even made a comment as to how badly she wanted to push me down the stairs as I walked past her. It's kind of sad that we are at this big of a risk of losing our favorite pasttime, yet the evidence against us is, for the most part, a load of shit. Especially when the harrassment on a fellow HUMAN is even worse than any fisherman would intentionally do to a seal.

09-09-2009, 07:32 PM	#3
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	I am sure the maps would have looked very much the way they do now without any input from our side. The differences that have and hopefully will continue to be made are minor adjustments to the MPAs but major adjustments to our ability to continue fishing while the legal challenges are being mounted and fought. If none of our guys had fought the good fight we would not be fishing La Jolla, North Palos Verdes, or Malibu at all. The drivers of this process have been hell bent on taking a huge portion of our best habitats, and nothing we did would have stopped them. They have changed almost every rule they have come up with and ignored most of the "Science" involved in creating Marine Reserves. But we need to keep bumping them as they drop their cookie cutter molds into the ocean so that we have something left.

09-10-2009, 04:49 AM	#5
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	I just gave 1 more Glance at The La Jolla Shores Webcam. -Its all the motivation you will need for Todays Mission. See You There. Billy V OUT.