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Old 09-10-2009, 04:39 PM   #1
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We kayakers showed up in decent numbers. Not the best we've done though. Thanks to everyone that did make it. Huge thanks to those that donated their time to me so I could get through a longer presentation. It's tough to drive all that way and give your time to someone else so I really appreciated it.

October 20-22 we need a better turnout. This is the most important meeting yet. This is where things really hit the fan. The BRTF will most likely combine the maps to come up with what they really want. How that goes is up in the air. Our input can help. There will be at least one public comment session, maybe two.

I hope they schedule at least one of those at a reasonable time for working people. You can email and ask for just that here:

mlpacommen​ts@resource​s.ca.gov


Any messages made now should not be addressed to the RSG members. Their work is finishing up today if all goes as planned. Now is the time to direct comments to the BRTF about which map is best, or which areas should remain open. The maps should be made available soon.

It is getting old seeing the same people at these meetings. We need new faces. Many of the MLPA staff are on a first name basis with some of us. We need to do better. We sound like the same small bunch of whiney fishermen similar to the crazy laguna ladies. It is hard to say there are thousands of us, when only the same handful show up everytime. Where was everyone that attended the great rallies over the last weekend? It's easy to make a statement when it doesn't matter as much. Driving around with your buddies for a few hours with signs on your boat and having a bbq afterwards is fun, but the real differences being made in this struggle are in hotel ballrooms at the actual meetings.

For those that say public comment hasn't helped, look at what has become of the maps. Many are still very ugly, but key concessions have been made in areas that we complained the most about. Most notably La Jolla.
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Old 09-10-2009, 05:02 PM   #2
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Thanks

Thanks to those that made it this morning (major pain in the ass to get up that early to drive to the armpit of california).

Major props to Tyler, who (imho) has been a key player in all of this.. on all of your behalfs.. It's the guys like this who are making an impact by putting in the time to become knowledgeable wiht this process, the maps etc, in order to make effective commetns and recommendations at these meetings. So my many thanks...

My other opinion is that the turnout was pretty weak. I honestly thought the presence at this meeting would trump the last one, and well, it didn't : (

This is not over. There are still efforts that can be made, and as Tyler mentioned, there will still be meetings where our presence is a must! The accomplishments that have been made so far by those involved should be motivation enough that we can continue to positively influence this in our favor.. its our only hope. If you are not sure what you can do, reach out to others here that will be happy to point you in the right direction. I will be the first to admit that I am no expert in these matters. There are plenty of guys who are generous enough to clue you in on the important stuff, and what you and I can do to help.
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Old 09-10-2009, 05:04 PM   #3
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Tyler's Post says it all.

First name basis with the BRTF and I Team. Its soo true its scary.
-Just ask Martin T Man what happened this morning. I had called him from the road on the way to LA and asked him to submit my speaker card.
When He handed it to Kelly she said,
"Martin, you can do that for Bill. :0 "
Holy Crap She Knows our Kids Names at this point.

Where were all the BBQ'ers from the Tow-Your-Boat-Rally ???
When it comes to doing The Heavy Lifting I don't mind Fighting the Fight, but those guys could have accomplished much more with a simple trip to Today's Meeting.
- I was done with the meeting and back Home in San Diego at 12:30 Today.

There are No Laurels to Rest On! Please Do Not Get a False Sense of Security. This Nightmare is Far From Over.

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Old 09-10-2009, 09:01 PM   #4
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I couldnt believe the old laguna lady that said her husband is a kayak fisherman and he will just paddle through the MPA so go ahead and close laguna.

I bet with as old as that woman was, that her husband wont be paddling 3 miles offshore to fish.

And the kid that said he doesnt want the ocean to run out of fish? Where do these people come from? Today really opened my eyes to what a difference a few intelligent comments can make. I'll do my best to be at the next meeting as well.
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:08 PM   #5
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We did have attendance of those from the caravan but just not enough. Mikeylikesit and I spearheaded the caravan events last weekend and had Dean (Bank Robber in LA) and Bobby in OC lead their local caravan. Paul Romanowski helped as well. We were all there at the mtg. today. Paul spoke and I spoke. Mikey ceded his time to me. Yes, the personal boaters just don't seem to be so concerned and attendance was poor. It is very frustrating to see such a lack of committment when we have such large numbers of members on the boards. I was very proud of the kayakers showing in numbers to represent! I know many are burnt out with this whole process but we need to stick it out.

Thanks for all who participate in this process!
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:57 AM   #6
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All that you read is true, we need more presence...getting down to crunch time.

Baytubers showed up in force, and it has gotten to the point that they know us by name. I was even asked where Clay was...

Now why is that?

Is it because they are used to seeing the regular faces so much, that even Tyler got complimented on his speech, or that Mr. Ken Wiseman even said that he recognized alot of the names?

We need presence, BOTTOM LINE.

We all have plenty of time to prepare for the next meeting. Or would you rather be punked by some blue shirted environmentalist who speaks passable English at best, while he rants that the "MLPA process works"?

Or the blue clad smiley faced female that wants to preserve the 'surf grass'? Ask Kiyo on that one...

Our reps have worked their arses off for us, with no pay.

Think about that. Now think about it some more...

This is not some fly by night plan...it gets reviewed in 5 years...with no guarantees...
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