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Old 09-11-2009, 09:02 PM   #1
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Well, until the final maps are published, we won't know for certain. That's what they said last night. I think they really don't know any better. Make what you will of that. They certainly didn't ask for my input; I would have been happy to square them away. This is something we can address at the BRTF meeting if it comes to that, although I suggest we focus elsewhere.
I was a bit startled by the lack of focus, or knowledge of both WG3 RSG members that I spoke to while the maps were projected...they were really confused by my questions and couldn't answer them. The gentleman representing the local Native American tribes was baffled by my simple questions about what is allowed in this or that reserve, where the borders lie etc. The other guy kept pointing to Solana Beach and calling it Moonlight beach....aaaghh!!! I had to completely school him on what was what. ssooooo frustrating.

....totally no skin in the game which is unfortunate because I'm sure he shrugged and went along with whatever he was fed, much like that college kid who I watched get dressed with a blue 'mpa's work' shirt in the lobby by the girl who dragged him along. He could barely articulate his points, and talking with him after he got "dressed", he said that he was concerned about Point Dooned?!

I have much more respect for informed opposition than dribbling placeholders. We had a few on our side too that I just wanted to muzzle as well....but anyone speaking with passion and clarity really impressed me. BillyV nailed it, Djax did GREAT, Tyler killed, Kurt was spot on!, pescador Pete was the lone north county voice, and the gent trying to get the line moved in Catalina so the boy scouts could fish of the pier at their camp almost made me cry.

Is it over yet?!!? ugg.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:36 AM   #2
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Bump! You have weeks to prepare for this showdown. Please turn for the Oct 20-22 meeting, its crucial to our fishing future.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:12 PM   #3
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I spoke with one of the Workgroup 3 RSG representatives today about the Scripps Pier SMCA. He said their intent was to allow kayak bait only; he was unaware the group's selected method of take (dip net) did not achieve their objective.

He will take up the matter with his group during their ongoing Quality Control process and attempt to change the take to pacific and jack mackerel, sardines, squid and anchovy by hook and line and dip net. We'll know whether he was successful when the round 3 final proposals are released in a week or so.
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:25 PM   #4
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thanks

Paul, I already have my vacation days in for all 3 days. OC is going to be a tough struggle and the wedge shapes are just a slap in the face since by starting on the shore and extending out into the water they capture less valuable (and I know OC has very little as it is)habitat. WG 1 & 3 shapes are blatantly just an attempt to exclude shore based consumptive users from using the area.
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:34 PM   #5
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Any idea on what day/days the public comment will be?
I have exams on the 21st and 22nd and want to know ahead of time so I can move them if I have to.
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:28 PM   #6
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I spoke with one of the Workgroup 3 RSG representatives today about the Scripps Pier SMCA. He said their intent was to allow kayak bait only; he was unaware the group's selected method of take (dip net) did not achieve their objective.

He will take up the matter with his group during their ongoing Quality Control process and attempt to change the take to pacific and jack mackerel, sardines, squid and anchovy by hook and line and dip net. We'll know whether he was successful when the round 3 final proposals are released in a week or so.
Thanks for making that call Paul.
We will be patiently awaiting their answer.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:24 PM   #7
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I spoke with one of the Workgroup 3 RSG representatives today about the Scripps Pier SMCA. He said their intent was to allow kayak bait only; he was unaware the group's selected method of take (dip net) did not achieve their objective.

He will take up the matter with his group during their ongoing Quality Control process and attempt to change the take to pacific and jack mackerel, sardines, squid and anchovy by hook and line and dip net. We'll know whether he was successful when the round 3 final proposals are released in a week or so.

Thanks , Paul. Thanks for setting them straight. Glad to hear that it was not their intention. You can be sure that I will be there in October.
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