kayakers swamped ! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

stairman · 12-24-2009, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dorado50

I'm sure you are but 16 or 17 yrs. old by how you are asking these questions.(and thats ok). Just follow the post and that should tell you what happened and hopefully the conditions that day won't ever come into play for you. Spill your guts about what? No need to chastise these guys,hopefully their experience(second hand ie. the news report) and your familiarity of the sea you can come to a sense of how this event transpired.

nope I'm an old fart like you dorado

I just look 18!
Just trying to get the info out there so no one else makes the same mistake and we end up have a bunch of r.i.p. and prayers on this board.
I fished lj for the first time in 71 and have spent at least 2000 days on the water since,not trying to stir up trouble quite the opposite.Just a month ago while fishing the after thanks giving halibut tournament we came close to losing some people at the mission bay channel entrance in a boat some what bigger then a kayak.
I have pushed my luck before and it was for the same reason ...not knowing or checking the weather conditions,so I'm a guilty as the next guy.
If there was equipment failure in tough conditions and it is because of the way a kayak is designed or modified please let everyone know so they can avoid the mistake.A thirty pound tail or croaker is not worth dying over ( well maybe the croaker).

dorado50 · 12-24-2009, 11:33 AM

One is pressing their "luck" (as u say) the moment you come in contact,either on or below, with the sea. Education and on the water experience does a great deal to help one in case of such emergencies. With 2000 days at sea you should be able to at least offer up a class to help others avoid that same event, I'll be the first to sign up!

Matt · 12-24-2009, 12:35 PM

I wasn't involved but have heard some of the events thatbwent down!

The gentleman who went to the hospital started having some healthnproblems which then turned into some kayak issues and he flipped and lost his boat. A different Matt than I was with the two other gentleman and immediately used his VHF and sent a mayday call! All involved weremwearing real life jackets and they were all on tight! It is very fortunate that we didn't lose anyone!

Always, always, always carry your VHF within reach and always watch out for those around you! The Matt in this story is quite an accomplished waterman and knows his shit, I'm guessing it was a case of YT fever! It is easy to sitback and second guess as hindsight is 20 20 always.

According to the firsthand accounts that inhave heard the swell was up but not unmakeable although several guys flipped launching, the wind was blowing but not as bad as it ultimately got up to 40 mph gusts out there. I think the important part of this is we are very fortunate that we didn't lose anymof our brothers in arms! And that proper safety equipment is an absolute must! Even if you store it in the boat for the just in case moment and you need to don it, at least you have it with you.

Also always check the forecast and use common sense as to how far your skills as a waterman will enable you to deal with the conditions! And listen to what the voice in your head is telling you!

dorado50 · 12-24-2009, 12:58 PM

Thats the thing you never know what to expect at any given time. These guys must of done alot of things right to have made it back safely. I was down at the launch at exactly 5am and watched two to three yaks go out through the surf. The wind was big and it was coming hard from the west off the surface. I went home with no second thoughts of fishing that day......

Jim Sammons LJKF · 12-24-2009, 01:16 PM

That is the thing, people made very bad choices going out that day. I was there at 5:30, got out of my truck and immediately said no way to heading out. At the time I pulled up there were guys launching into that howling wind.
La Jolla isn't going anywhere, you can always go out another day. Better to be safe than to put your family through the pain it would cause the if you were lost out there.
I hope you all have a great Christmas and many more days on the water.

12-24-2009, 12:35 PM	#3
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	I wasn't involved but have heard some of the events thatbwent down! The gentleman who went to the hospital started having some healthnproblems which then turned into some kayak issues and he flipped and lost his boat. A different Matt than I was with the two other gentleman and immediately used his VHF and sent a mayday call! All involved weremwearing real life jackets and they were all on tight! It is very fortunate that we didn't lose anyone! Always, always, always carry your VHF within reach and always watch out for those around you! The Matt in this story is quite an accomplished waterman and knows his shit, I'm guessing it was a case of YT fever! It is easy to sitback and second guess as hindsight is 20 20 always. According to the firsthand accounts that inhave heard the swell was up but not unmakeable although several guys flipped launching, the wind was blowing but not as bad as it ultimately got up to 40 mph gusts out there. I think the important part of this is we are very fortunate that we didn't lose anymof our brothers in arms! And that proper safety equipment is an absolute must! Even if you store it in the boat for the just in case moment and you need to don it, at least you have it with you. Also always check the forecast and use common sense as to how far your skills as a waterman will enable you to deal with the conditions! And listen to what the voice in your head is telling you! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

12-24-2009, 01:16 PM	#5
Jim Sammons LJKF Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 947	That is the thing, people made very bad choices going out that day. I was there at 5:30, got out of my truck and immediately said no way to heading out. At the time I pulled up there were guys launching into that howling wind. La Jolla isn't going anywhere, you can always go out another day. Better to be safe than to put your family through the pain it would cause the if you were lost out there. I hope you all have a great Christmas and many more days on the water. __________________ Jim Sammons La Jolla Kayak Fishing The Kayak Fishing Show JimSammons.com

12-24-2009, 11:33 AM	#2
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	One is pressing their "luck" (as u say) the moment you come in contact,either on or below, with the sea. Education and on the water experience does a great deal to help one in case of such emergencies. With 2000 days at sea you should be able to at least offer up a class to help others avoid that same event, I'll be the first to sign up!

12-24-2009, 12:58 PM	#4
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Thats the thing you never know what to expect at any given time. These guys must of done alot of things right to have made it back safely. I was down at the launch at exactly 5am and watched two to three yaks go out through the surf. The wind was big and it was coming hard from the west off the surface. I went home with no second thoughts of fishing that day......