Scupper type cart question - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ronbo613 · 01-26-2010, 06:18 PM

I've built scupper dollies and cradle dollies. Scupper dollies are fine; but cradle dollies are better; you can use them with any kayak.
Make your own decision: you can make either one yourself.

dgax65 · 01-27-2010, 07:52 AM

I have no personal experience with the scupper-type carts, but i have seen more than a few reports on various forums of damaged/leaking scuppers as a result of using this type of cart. The scuppers are the weakest part of your kayak, so why would you want to subject them to repeated wear and shock? A standard cart would probably be better.

BTW; there are at least two AKFF members who have launched with the scupper carts still installed. They couldn't figure out where all the drag was coming from until they got back to the ramp.

Quilted Germ · 01-27-2010, 08:05 AM

So much easier to just go buy a dolly type. I've experienced the damaged scupper due to the scupper type and had to have it professionally fixed....just not even worth the arguement....IMO, that is....

T Bone · 01-27-2010, 05:31 PM

I actually have a dolly type that I made,It just slips out from under the yak sometimes when I am dragging it aalong the sand at the CG station on NPH or it comes out from under when I hit that screwy driveway aat baby beach in Dana.I could probably just figure out a better way to strap it and be better off.Definitely seems like the no votes rule.I just thought the hobie carts were were scupper type and would be OK.

fishinkid2010 · 01-27-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by T Bone

I just thought the hobie carts were were scupper type and would be OK.

You are correct, the Hobie carts are the scupper style. But if I'm not mistaken, Hobie reinforces their scuppers in order to accommodate the stress put on them.

Billy V · 01-27-2010, 07:24 PM

I have not had any problem with a scupper cart, even transporting a loaded kayak - bait tank, with 4 rods, dry bags in the hull, etc.

I also have a Hobie cart for sale with all terrain wheels, its strong.
$50

Useful Idiot · 01-28-2010, 11:52 AM

We've repaired countless scupper holes at OEX that have been damaged by those type of carts. When they were more popular we probably had one or two repairs a week caused by scupper carts. We haven't carried or recommended scupper carts for years. Go with the cradle style.

01-26-2010, 06:18 PM	#1
ronbo613 Waterman At Large Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On the Water Posts: 199	I've built scupper dollies and cradle dollies. Scupper dollies are fine; but cradle dollies are better; you can use them with any kayak. Make your own decision: you can make either one yourself. __________________ Kayak Fishing Photos and Video

01-27-2010, 07:52 AM	#2
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	I have no personal experience with the scupper-type carts, but i have seen more than a few reports on various forums of damaged/leaking scuppers as a result of using this type of cart. The scuppers are the weakest part of your kayak, so why would you want to subject them to repeated wear and shock? A standard cart would probably be better. BTW; there are at least two AKFF members who have launched with the scupper carts still installed. They couldn't figure out where all the drag was coming from until they got back to the ramp. __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

01-27-2010, 08:05 AM	#3
Quilted Germ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cardiff, Ca Posts: 185	So much easier to just go buy a dolly type. I've experienced the damaged scupper due to the scupper type and had to have it professionally fixed....just not even worth the arguement....IMO, that is.... __________________ Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. - Ronald Reagan

01-27-2010, 05:31 PM	#4
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	I actually have a dolly type that I made,It just slips out from under the yak sometimes when I am dragging it aalong the sand at the CG station on NPH or it comes out from under when I hit that screwy driveway aat baby beach in Dana.I could probably just figure out a better way to strap it and be better off.Definitely seems like the no votes rule.I just thought the hobie carts were were scupper type and would be OK. __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

01-28-2010, 11:52 AM	#7
Useful Idiot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 286	We've repaired countless scupper holes at OEX that have been damaged by those type of carts. When they were more popular we probably had one or two repairs a week caused by scupper carts. We haven't carried or recommended scupper carts for years. Go with the cradle style. __________________

01-27-2010, 07:24 PM	#6
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	I have not had any problem with a scupper cart, even transporting a loaded kayak - bait tank, with 4 rods, dry bags in the hull, etc. I also have a Hobie cart for sale with all terrain wheels, its strong. $50