settings for hbird 718/728 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

07-23-2010, 03:35 PM

You will never see arcs on your 718 no matter what the settings
since it isn't powerful enough and doesn't have the high resolution
pixels. But, I already told you that in a pm 2 wks ago.

MVC · 07-23-2010, 06:06 PM

Yani, I have the 728 which I think is the same unit that you have. Could you let me know what settings you normally use? Also have you looked into the GPS,s that are compatible with the 728?

ikrash · 07-23-2010, 07:01 PM

yani:

compatible color units with same pixels and rms can track a jig up to 150 yards down

if the 718 cannot see an arc of a fish 3 feet long and half a foot wide then idk what is wrong

most fishing that would require me to "see" the fish would be in under 100 ft of water

otherwise i'm trolling a mack 100 yards behind

we'll see though

i havent given it a test ride yet...i DO wanna get that gps though

would be so cool...but that would be it...functionality would be relatively useless imo...but who knows

ikrash · 07-23-2010, 07:07 PM

btw...no disrespect intended

i see the use of the extra rms power as well as the added detail in the screen...

just extra money isn't somethign i had and it seemed like the 718 was the best bang for the buck

soooooo...i do appreciate your information yani...from "2 weeks ago" and the quickness of the response...

but unfortunately such an expensive unit is not an option for me right now....

07-23-2010, 07:18 PM

MVC (name?),

I remember the 728 is compatible with an external GPS.
As far as my settings, it just depends.

Here's a few things I do:
Be willing to experiment with the settings since even the
water's turbidity can effect your ff along with other factors.
So don't think that once you've set them, you'll never touch
them again.

If I'm looking for bait, I increase the sensitivity, or gain.
If I'm just looking for big fish, I decrease the sensitivity.

Learn to fish with your dual sonar screen since the narrower beam
screen gives you greater detail. Which will show the arcs better.

Learn to recognize what arcs really look like. Since only under
unachievable perfect conditions, will you get perfect arcs. This is because the surface isn't perfectly flat, your kayak isn't perfectly still, etc. Therefore the arcs are distorted, but the 728 will show them. Sometimes as half or paritial arcs.

But here's what you really need to do. Get yourself where there are
fish. Then look at your FF. But be sure your over fish, like when
there's people hooking up around you, or even when you are hooked
up. And here's another way, fish with someone with a super-duper
FF who's knows there are fish around and can see arcs under his kayak.
Then look for the arcs.

Here's an example. I was fishing with the Kid. A super fisherman with tons of experience and a great FF. He told me there was a mark under him, so I looked at my FF and saw a long thin squiggly line near the bottom. I thought to myself, that can't be a mark. Next thing I know, he's hooked up. Now I know what a lone single big fish mark looks like on my unit.

Be patient, it took me 4-5 outings before I recognized my arcs. But have
faith, your ff will show them.

07-23-2010, 03:35 PM	#1
yani Guest Posts: n/a	You will never see arcs on your 718 no matter what the settings since it isn't powerful enough and doesn't have the high resolution pixels. But, I already told you that in a pm 2 wks ago.

07-23-2010, 06:06 PM	#2
MVC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 278	Yani, I have the 728 which I think is the same unit that you have. Could you let me know what settings you normally use? Also have you looked into the GPS,s that are compatible with the 728?

07-23-2010, 07:01 PM	#3
ikrash Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40	yani: compatible color units with same pixels and rms can track a jig up to 150 yards down if the 718 cannot see an arc of a fish 3 feet long and half a foot wide then idk what is wrong most fishing that would require me to "see" the fish would be in under 100 ft of water otherwise i'm trolling a mack 100 yards behind we'll see though i havent given it a test ride yet...i DO wanna get that gps though would be so cool...but that would be it...functionality would be relatively useless imo...but who knows

07-23-2010, 07:07 PM	#4
ikrash Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40	btw...no disrespect intended i see the use of the extra rms power as well as the added detail in the screen... just extra money isn't somethign i had and it seemed like the 718 was the best bang for the buck soooooo...i do appreciate your information yani...from "2 weeks ago" and the quickness of the response... but unfortunately such an expensive unit is not an option for me right now....

07-23-2010, 07:18 PM	#5
yani Guest Posts: n/a	MVC (name?), I remember the 728 is compatible with an external GPS. As far as my settings, it just depends. Here's a few things I do: Be willing to experiment with the settings since even the water's turbidity can effect your ff along with other factors. So don't think that once you've set them, you'll never touch them again. If I'm looking for bait, I increase the sensitivity, or gain. If I'm just looking for big fish, I decrease the sensitivity. Learn to fish with your dual sonar screen since the narrower beam screen gives you greater detail. Which will show the arcs better. Learn to recognize what arcs really look like. Since only under unachievable perfect conditions, will you get perfect arcs. This is because the surface isn't perfectly flat, your kayak isn't perfectly still, etc. Therefore the arcs are distorted, but the 728 will show them. Sometimes as half or paritial arcs. But here's what you really need to do. Get yourself where there are fish. Then look at your FF. But be sure your over fish, like when there's people hooking up around you, or even when you are hooked up. And here's another way, fish with someone with a super-duper FF who's knows there are fish around and can see arcs under his kayak. Then look for the arcs. Here's an example. I was fishing with the Kid. A super fisherman with tons of experience and a great FF. He told me there was a mark under him, so I looked at my FF and saw a long thin squiggly line near the bottom. I thought to myself, that can't be a mark. Next thing I know, he's hooked up. Now I know what a lone single big fish mark looks like on my unit. Be patient, it took me 4-5 outings before I recognized my arcs. But have faith, your ff will show them.