MLPA Public Comment! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

PAL · 10-20-2010, 08:08 PM

Those who came out -

Thank you for sacrificing a day for our way of life.

It was fantastic to see our hardcore, familiar faces who've endured meeting after droning meeting. And just as valued, the new blood. We are grateful for your help.

Great turnout, great comments, but I'd expect nothing less because kayak anglers (and our close friends the free divers), are freedom loving, independent minded, strong of will and spirt, and the best people I know.

It may not seem like we accomplished much - the commission didn't do much more than sit through the legally required public comment. Don't believe it. If we hadn't have showed, we would have certainly lost ground.

We have to do it one more time, Dec 15 or 16 in Santa Barbara of all places. That's MLPA HQ, for us the heart of darkness. Please join me there for the finale.

zenspearo · 10-20-2010, 09:09 PM

Huge thanks from the WA and from the spearos for the joint effort we all put in.

You guys are awesome.

Heads up

Anyone who did not have an opportunity to speak on Item 3 today because
they missed their call, had to leave early, couldn't be there at all or
choose not to--for example because they ceded time to someone who did
not get credit for enough cards--may address Item 3 tomorrow during
general public commentary. And, time will be much cheaper--three minutes
to start and perhaps only a couple of cards to get as much as 5 minutes.

Of course if you spoke today, you can't speak again tomorrow.

This was relayed to me by someone familiar with the process.

So to those who didn't speak today--go sign up and speak tomorrow.

The Kid · 10-20-2010, 09:24 PM

i use dynamite when i fish our local coral reefs

teachers these days i am so glad i was a rebel when i was in school

Billy V · 10-20-2010, 09:32 PM

Can we use M-80's or Seal Bombs with a couple of 1/2" nuts taped on to make bait ?

It would be much easier than those sabiki rigs with all those sharp hooks.

PAL · 10-20-2010, 09:39 PM

Joe, thanks for posting over here. I just saw your Spearboard update. I was about to cross post, and you beat me to it.

If you didn't get a chance today, please give it a shot Thurs morning.

dsafety · 10-21-2010, 06:41 AM

Commissioner Richards in his typical sly way brought up a point that I had not considered before. He mentioned that of the seven significant areas in southern California that contain a lot of structure, all seven are to be closed or partially closed. Proponents are constantly saying that the MLPA leaves open for fishing, nearly 90% of California's coastline. That may be true but most of the unprotected areas that they generously leave to us do not harbor many fish.

Someone should come up with a new analysis that shows the percentage of high quality fishing grounds that the MLPA wants to take. I bet the number rises significantly from the 14% of so that the currently claim. I suspect that the true number ends up to be more like 60%, maybe more.

Was anyone else a little confused by the graphic that one of the Commissioners put up on the screen with a bunch of black dots showing, "every place in California where fish have been reported to have been caught" ? It seemed interesting to me that there were no reported catches in La Jolla, or any of the other areas targeted for closure. I guess Josh has not reported in.

How dumb to they think the public is?

Bob

jbm · 10-21-2010, 07:00 AM

That was a fishing effort map, not a catch map. Also, it didn't show effort density, so it is misleading. It's typical create evidence to support your foregone conclusion tactics.

10-20-2010, 09:09 PM	#2
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Huge thanks from the WA and from the spearos for the joint effort we all put in. You guys are awesome. Heads up Anyone who did not have an opportunity to speak on Item 3 today because they missed their call, had to leave early, couldn't be there at all or choose not to--for example because they ceded time to someone who did not get credit for enough cards--may address Item 3 tomorrow during general public commentary. And, time will be much cheaper--three minutes to start and perhaps only a couple of cards to get as much as 5 minutes. Of course if you spoke today, you can't speak again tomorrow. This was relayed to me by someone familiar with the process. So to those who didn't speak today--go sign up and speak tomorrow. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

10-20-2010, 09:32 PM	#4
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Can we use M-80's or Seal Bombs with a couple of 1/2" nuts taped on to make bait ? It would be much easier than those sabiki rigs with all those sharp hooks. __________________

10-20-2010, 08:08 PM	#1
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Those who came out - Thank you for sacrificing a day for our way of life. It was fantastic to see our hardcore, familiar faces who've endured meeting after droning meeting. And just as valued, the new blood. We are grateful for your help. Great turnout, great comments, but I'd expect nothing less because kayak anglers (and our close friends the free divers), are freedom loving, independent minded, strong of will and spirt, and the best people I know. It may not seem like we accomplished much - the commission didn't do much more than sit through the legally required public comment. Don't believe it. If we hadn't have showed, we would have certainly lost ground. We have to do it one more time, Dec 15 or 16 in Santa Barbara of all places. That's MLPA HQ, for us the heart of darkness. Please join me there for the finale.

10-20-2010, 09:24 PM	#3
The Kid Loves Surface Irons Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 455	i use dynamite when i fish our local coral reefs teachers these days i am so glad i was a rebel when i was in school

10-20-2010, 09:39 PM	#5
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Joe, thanks for posting over here. I just saw your Spearboard update. I was about to cross post, and you beat me to it. If you didn't get a chance today, please give it a shot Thurs morning.

10-21-2010, 06:41 AM	#6
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	Commissioner Richards in his typical sly way brought up a point that I had not considered before. He mentioned that of the seven significant areas in southern California that contain a lot of structure, all seven are to be closed or partially closed. Proponents are constantly saying that the MLPA leaves open for fishing, nearly 90% of California's coastline. That may be true but most of the unprotected areas that they generously leave to us do not harbor many fish. Someone should come up with a new analysis that shows the percentage of high quality fishing grounds that the MLPA wants to take. I bet the number rises significantly from the 14% of so that the currently claim. I suspect that the true number ends up to be more like 60%, maybe more. Was anyone else a little confused by the graphic that one of the Commissioners put up on the screen with a bunch of black dots showing, "every place in California where fish have been reported to have been caught" ? It seemed interesting to me that there were no reported catches in La Jolla, or any of the other areas targeted for closure. I guess Josh has not reported in. How dumb to they think the public is? Bob

10-21-2010, 07:00 AM	#7
jbm Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Escondido<->Carlsbad Posts: 81	That was a fishing effort map, not a catch map. Also, it didn't show effort density, so it is misleading. It's typical create evidence to support your foregone conclusion tactics.