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Old 11-25-2010, 08:04 AM   #1
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So here's my little anchor setup, since I wanted to make a new one anyway. I thought I might as well show you a improved version that can be made without welding.

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So that is a chunk of pipe a galvanized welded ring and two 1/8 stainless rods about twenty inches long.

Construction is simple. Slide the ring on to both rods. Slide the rods down into the tube. Bend the rods out like a grapple.

Here's the completed anchor, along with my little downrigger setup I use for with it.

Put the scotty in a mount, mini rigger in the scotty and you're in business. I already had made the rigger to use as a downrigger but it makes a good anchor system as well.




The advantages of this are that you can deploy the anchor instantly, get it up and out of the way fast, and freespool out more scope if you need to move (like your hung up) but do not want to loose your anchor set.

I've used the setup at Castiac for fishing bait. Just drop it down and it hooks in the rocks but when you need to pull it the rods bend out to an extent and it easily comes free. It will work fine with just pipe but I pour lead into mine, which adds maybe six ounces. The whole thing maybe weighs 12 ounces. More then enough to hold me in wind but easy to deploy, use, and retrieve.

The anchor mini grapple itself is so inexpensive and easy to make I sometimes carry them with me even when I do not have the rigger, as I can just tie it to a thirty or forty pound outfit and use it in a pinch. Cast it out, let it hang up, put the rod in the holder and tighten the drag and your anchored, when you want to go pull hard and the tines straighten out. It's just that simple.

Works for me.


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Old 11-25-2010, 08:46 AM   #2
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That is really cool. It will hold you and if stuck allow you to pull it free. Very good creation
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:03 AM   #3
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Jim's "anchor" reel is better than my best fishing reel!
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:17 AM   #4
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Nice set up Jim. I may have to ditch my anchor and copy your set up. I am not a huge LJ fisher (I am not a morning person at all) and most of my fishing is during lobster season. I carry an anchor with me while I am hooping because if I want to take a break or shoot the breeze with another yakker while we are waiting to pull another set.

I always check my FF to see what the bottom looks like before I drop it, but I have had a time or two where it hung up and it took me a bit to free it.


Just my .02! I am gonna try making that smaller rig like Jim's. Any weight off my yak while I am hooping is a good idea!
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Jim's "anchor" reel is better than my best fishing reel!
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:22 PM   #6
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I have a drift sock
Those don't work that well around here; 35-50mph wind is common, that's a lot of drifting.
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Old 11-26-2010, 05:39 PM   #7
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Jim's "anchor" reel is better than my best fishing reel!

LOL... Actually it's pretty cheezy: an old Kencor levelwind. You can get these reels for about ten bucks on ebay. The good part is they are all stainless so they have zero corrosion issues, and have strong gears, but the sideplate plastic is brittle, and the drag is tiny and actually made with a leather drag washer. They work well for what I use them for, but I wouldn't want to fish them for anything other then maybe rockfish.

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Old 12-01-2010, 06:49 PM   #8
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So here's my little anchor setup, since I wanted to make a new one anyway. I thought I might as well show you a improved version that can be made without welding.

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So that is a chunk of pipe a galvanized welded ring and two 1/8 stainless rods about twenty inches long.

Construction is simple. Slide the ring on to both rods. Slide the rods down into the tube. Bend the rods out like a grapple.

Here's the completed anchor, along with my little downrigger setup I use for with it.

Put the scotty in a mount, mini rigger in the scotty and you're in business. I already had made the rigger to use as a downrigger but it makes a good anchor system as well.




The advantages of this are that you can deploy the anchor instantly, get it up and out of the way fast, and freespool out more scope if you need to move (like your hung up) but do not want to loose your anchor set.

I've used the setup at Castiac for fishing bait. Just drop it down and it hooks in the rocks but when you need to pull it the rods bend out to an extent and it easily comes free. It will work fine with just pipe but I pour lead into mine, which adds maybe six ounces. The whole thing maybe weighs 12 ounces. More then enough to hold me in wind but easy to deploy, use, and retrieve.

The anchor mini grapple itself is so inexpensive and easy to make I sometimes carry them with me even when I do not have the rigger, as I can just tie it to a thirty or forty pound outfit and use it in a pinch. Cast it out, let it hang up, put the rod in the holder and tighten the drag and your anchored, when you want to go pull hard and the tines straighten out. It's just that simple.

Works for me.


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Have you ever used that to hold you in place? It looks a little flimsy to me. I use a folding Grapnel anchor on my small boats, kayak and inflatable. A 1.5 lb is $12 at WM, takes up little space and weighs, you guessed it 1.5 lb. I could see the need of and good anchor in an emergency, in case of a big fish, injury or gear failure near large breaking waves, or other unseen occasion.
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Have you ever used that to hold you in place? It looks a little flimsy to me. I use a folding Grapnel anchor on my small boats, kayak and inflatable. A 1.5 lb is $12 at WM, takes up little space and weighs, you guessed it 1.5 lb. I could see the need of and good anchor in an emergency, in case of a big fish, injury or gear failure near large breaking waves, or other unseen occasion.
Honestly I find this post hilarious on so many levels. You not only missed the proverbial boat, but missed the whole ocean.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:38 AM   #10
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Have you ever used that to hold you in place? It looks a little flimsy to me. I use a folding Grapnel anchor on my small boats, kayak and inflatable. A 1.5 lb is $12 at WM, takes up little space and weighs, you guessed it 1.5 lb. I could see the need of and good anchor in an emergency, in case of a big fish, injury or gear failure near large breaking waves, or other unseen occasion.
I know I already commented on this but I wanted to come back when I had time to actually say something.

First take a look at this picture.


Now those things in case you do not know it are not anchors. They are Irons, lures. Have you ever used one or hung one up and seen how they can hold you in place when fishing a kayak?

Those little hooks (even though they are not very big) when attached to something solid on the bottom are more then enough to keep a kayak from drifting in most conditions.

Now does that mean that you should attach ten feet of chain, and a hundred feet of 1/2 inch anchor rode to one of those jigs and deploy it to save your boat in the case of an emergency, injury, or gear failure near large breaking waves, or other unseen occasion? Of course not! That would just be stupid.

My little anchor just like those Irons is not a storm anchor, it's not for boats, it's not for boating emergencies, it's not heavy ground tackle that should be used with chain an rode, to protect you from drifting in a anchorage in high winds and breaking seas.

It's just just a fishing tool. Something that will grab the bottom quickly, and hold you in one place in normal fishing conditions.

Yes because it is flimsy by design it's something you can also easily pull it loose when it gets hung in the rocks, the tines will straighten under load and it will come free, and that is something your little 1.5 lb $12 at WM folding Grapnel anchor which is designed for boats can not do.

Have you ever used that 1.5 lb $12 at WM folding Grapnel anchor to hold your kayak in place? It'll grab and hold no doubt, but I quarentee you that if you use it from your kayak around rocks you will eventually hang it up, and then be unable to retrieve it from your kayak because you will not be able to put enough force on it from a kayak to pull it loose.

Then in the words of StinkyMatt: "Get a sharp knife....." ..because quite frankly you are not getting it back.

One more thing rather then depend on secure ground tackle to save you in the case of emergencies involving large breaking waves, or other unforeseen hurricane like difficulties, like you might have to do in a boat, my advice is simply to avoid such conditions by paddling in and getting off the water.

Kayaks are not yachts you don't anchor up and ride out the storms on anchor in a kayak.

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Old 12-03-2010, 11:17 AM   #11
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Very well said Jim. All I am mainly looking for is something that will maybe slow my drift down, Drift sock, I have one. I have also spoken to others who will sometimes throw out 2 in some conditions. When the current is moving one way and the wind is moving you a different way you have to use something to present the bait the right way.

I am not ashamed to say I will be using a drift sock, or maybe someday an anchor. I don't think I'll use an anchor in the Ocean, but in the Bay and lakes I may.
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:04 PM   #12
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I have never seen a use in a kayak for an anchor, Tidal swings,fast currents and rough swell, good way to swamp yourself... my 2cents paddle or peddal away, Plus more crap to carry, clean, stow, and add to the yard sale items in the surf
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:41 PM   #13
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don't know much about the ocean, but common sense tells me not to anchor a kayak to the pacific ocean floor! Any wind chop,ground swell,current,wind ........a 60# pc. of plastic secured to the ocean floor!!??!! good luck with that.
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:52 PM   #14
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Your common sense is correct. I don't see the point in anchoring in the ocean, like you I just don't have a good feeling about that. I can see the points behind everyones posts, that's why I have asked this very question.
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