Heads up on a fishing license problem... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Fiskadoro · 01-13-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by IB Fish"N"

Well as we all know they do not have to be visable anymore and i was told at Wal-Mart if you put it in a license holder put it in with the backside out cause the sun will fade the writing.

Yeah that is another issue. They are vulnerable to water heat and sunlight.

This idiocy has got to be about bang for the buck. Print out receipt style licenses are cheaper to produce and there is less man hours in paperwork as it's all already on computer.

I just feel bad for the brilliant guy who figured out the old system, and who has now lost the California account.

Those old licenses were indestructible, color coded, impossible to counterfeit, just a very well designed system that worked, but they are now phased out to a vastly inferior system purely because the bean counters want a cheaper less labor intensive way to do it.

Sure rubs me the wrong way, on multiple levels.

Jim

jorluivil · 01-14-2011, 12:40 AM

And just to add insult to injury.......I found out from Savon tackle that there is a catch for any vendor of these licenses. Before the vendor is sent the computer they must submit a deposit for the entire system, the deposit will be held until the computer system is returned(if you wish to do so), once the system is returned you will get your refund back. The guy at the counter tells me, "We can pretty much consider that money gone. We need to sell these licences and since the DFG no longer sells the handwritten ones we are forced to keep these computers which means that they will keep our money". He didn't tell me how much the deposit was but he did say that it wasn't a small amount. This sucks for the smaller mom & pop operation that are already struggling.

mtnbykr2 · 01-14-2011, 06:57 AM

Another fabulous F%$# up by our wonderful government

tagyak · 01-14-2011, 07:16 AM

it is a very sad state of affairs that we are in for california. that the state has to resort to nickel and dimming us to keep their special interest afloat if not their bloated salaries.

it also makes me think from what jim day said of almost getting a ticket for not able to read the print out for the two poles; maybe the state is or will use that for their benefit too. give out tickets to stuff the coffers with our money with bogus fines.

just something that makes you say HUMMM

also thanks jim for the heads up and also for a cool solution. i like that it looks so clean, makes me want to go buy a food saver now.

hatchetman · 01-14-2011, 08:25 AM

I felt the same way when my wife brought hers home, what a piece of crap.

I have no doubt that the state will have a record year for fishing license revenue.

I fully expect the supporter of the MLPA will use this info to show that recreational fishermen/women are spending more than ever, thus proving that the MLPA dose not hurt fishing revenue.

Be careful of making a photo copy as the intense light may be harmful to the license.

I do like the food saver idea,

will definitely be doing the same. Another issue that we had was that some retailers will not sell a license without the actual person present.

Sports Authority in Chula Vista would not sell my wife my license even with my ID # or ID, they would sell her a voucher so I could pick up my license in person. I always enjoyed being able to purchase a license for family and friends without them being present, saves time and trips to the store. We should sell Kalifornia to Arizona so thing can get back to normal.

wiseguy · 01-14-2011, 08:48 AM

I scanned mine into a PDF file just in case and I also keep it in a zip lock baggie inside my water proof container.

sdfisher · 01-14-2011, 12:10 PM

I talked to Bill from Barnacle Bill's bait and tackle and he told me that the computer deposit is $1000 and then the DFG wants the retailer to put in a internet line for the computer, he declined to do it and now does not sell licenses anymore

Also a lot of stores will say that their software is not working for the machine, but it is not true, they have just not been trained to operate it. a buddy went to walmart and sports chalet and both had given him this reason for why they couldn't sell him a license. I purchased mine online, I got a print out good for 15 days while my real one came in the mail

T-Rex · 01-16-2011, 01:34 PM

Computer generated licenses? - Does anybody know who manufactures the computers, printers and software used for the licenses??? After seeing first hand the conflicts of interest that were completely ignored in the MLPA process, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we learn that Hewlett-Packard is involved with the new license process and making money off the fishing community.

01-14-2011, 08:25 AM	#5
hatchetman Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: lincoln acres Posts: 60	I felt the same way when my wife brought hers home, what a piece of crap. I have no doubt that the state will have a record year for fishing license revenue. I fully expect the supporter of the MLPA will use this info to show that recreational fishermen/women are spending more than ever, thus proving that the MLPA dose not hurt fishing revenue. Be careful of making a photo copy as the intense light may be harmful to the license. I do like the food saver idea, will definitely be doing the same. Another issue that we had was that some retailers will not sell a license without the actual person present. Sports Authority in Chula Vista would not sell my wife my license even with my ID # or ID, they would sell her a voucher so I could pick up my license in person. I always enjoyed being able to purchase a license for family and friends without them being present, saves time and trips to the store. We should sell Kalifornia to Arizona so thing can get back to normal. __________________ FAITH, FAMILY, FIREARMS, FISHING When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

01-14-2011, 12:40 AM	#2
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	And just to add insult to injury.......I found out from Savon tackle that there is a catch for any vendor of these licenses. Before the vendor is sent the computer they must submit a deposit for the entire system, the deposit will be held until the computer system is returned(if you wish to do so), once the system is returned you will get your refund back. The guy at the counter tells me, "We can pretty much consider that money gone. We need to sell these licences and since the DFG no longer sells the handwritten ones we are forced to keep these computers which means that they will keep our money". He didn't tell me how much the deposit was but he did say that it wasn't a small amount. This sucks for the smaller mom & pop operation that are already struggling.

01-14-2011, 06:57 AM	#3
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	Another fabulous F%$# up by our wonderful government

01-14-2011, 07:16 AM	#4
tagyak Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Alhambra Posts: 506	it is a very sad state of affairs that we are in for california. that the state has to resort to nickel and dimming us to keep their special interest afloat if not their bloated salaries. it also makes me think from what jim day said of almost getting a ticket for not able to read the print out for the two poles; maybe the state is or will use that for their benefit too. give out tickets to stuff the coffers with our money with bogus fines. just something that makes you say HUMMM also thanks jim for the heads up and also for a cool solution. i like that it looks so clean, makes me want to go buy a food saver now.

01-14-2011, 08:48 AM	#6
wiseguy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Long Beach Posts: 427	I scanned mine into a PDF file just in case and I also keep it in a zip lock baggie inside my water proof container.

01-14-2011, 12:10 PM	#7
sdfisher Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 179	I talked to Bill from Barnacle Bill's bait and tackle and he told me that the computer deposit is $1000 and then the DFG wants the retailer to put in a internet line for the computer, he declined to do it and now does not sell licenses anymore Also a lot of stores will say that their software is not working for the machine, but it is not true, they have just not been trained to operate it. a buddy went to walmart and sports chalet and both had given him this reason for why they couldn't sell him a license. I purchased mine online, I got a print out good for 15 days while my real one came in the mail

01-16-2011, 01:34 PM	#8
T-Rex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita Posts: 770	Computer generated licenses? - Does anybody know who manufactures the computers, printers and software used for the licenses??? After seeing first hand the conflicts of interest that were completely ignored in the MLPA process, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we learn that Hewlett-Packard is involved with the new license process and making money off the fishing community.