to VHF or not VHF ? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

poorpaddy · 01-24-2011, 10:51 PM

I have high hopes that I'll catch something large enough to drag me several miles...so I got a Standard Horizon HX851 and love it. But in all seriousness, being new to Kayak fishing I'm terrified of some of the speed boats I can clearly see folks drinking at high speeds and of course the possibility that too long in the sun and heavy tides could be easily under estimated.

old_rookie · 01-25-2011, 06:47 AM

I bought a used Uniden unit. I take it with me each time I go out - clipped to my PFD and leashed. I monitor channel 16, and a few others. Obviously it works for listening, but I'm still wondering if it works the other way around, I try a radio check each time, but get no response. So I don't know if it is broadcasting far enough or I'm requesting a radio check incorrectly. I have done a basic test at home with a radio scanner and that works. As others have mentioned, I don't go out very far - at most 2 miles from the launch at LJ Shores.

mtnbykr2 · 01-25-2011, 06:53 AM

It's really your life line, God forbid anything bad happens out there, and for
the safety factor, I think it is a no brainer. They are a significant investment, but I think it is a necessity...

Jimmyz123 · 01-25-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by old_rookie

I bought a used Uniden unit. I take it with me each time I go out - clipped to my PFD and leashed. I monitor channel 16, and a few others. Obviously it works for listening, but I'm still wondering if it works the other way around, I try a radio check each time, but get no response. So I don't know if it is broadcasting far enough or I'm requesting a radio check incorrectly. I have done a basic test at home with a radio scanner and that works. As others have mentioned, I don't go out very far - at most 2 miles from the launch at LJ Shores.

I have had the same wonder about my radio so I took it to West Marine and tested it with a sales rep. It worked in the store and the rep also told me that we can use channel 16 to do radio checks, DON'T DO THIS. I did a radio check on 16 and was confirmed but was then told to use Channel 9 in the future.

I think it is always better to have a VHF and a Cell Phone on you. I have researched and found water proof Bluetooth devices I added the link above if anyone is interested. I'm sure it's more water resistant but still that's better than not. It's all about safety, that one trip where you say, "Heck with that." You're going to wish you had it. We have seen it posted on here many times. Accidents can happen and you never know when. Be safe, get a radio and have a cell phone.

dorado50 · 01-25-2011, 07:55 AM

Channel 16 is for emergencies only,(for the most part). Its the coast guard channel. Used for reporting hazards on the water, stranded boats,etc. Its like the land #911. Very annoying when montoring 16 and some nitwit calls in for a radio check. Channel 27 is now set up for radio checks only,its supposed to be in full operation now.

Jimmyz123 · 01-25-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dorado50

Channel 16 is for emergencies only,(for the most part). Its the coast guard channel. Used for reporting hazards on the water, stranded boats,etc. Its like the land #911. Very annoying when montoring 16 and some nitwit calls in for a radio check. Channel 27 is now set up for radio checks only,its supposed to be in full operation now.

It would be nice for some of us NOOBS to know this stuff. I ususally put my radio on scan and then when it picks up a channel that has conversations going on I'll try for a radio check. Does anyone know what Channel 88 is used for? I've heard some interesting chatter on that channel from time to time.

old_rookie · 01-25-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dorado50

Channel 16 is for emergencies only,(for the most part). Its the coast guard channel. Used for reporting hazards on the water, stranded boats,etc. Its like the land #911. Very annoying when montoring 16 and some nitwit calls in for a radio check. Channel 27 is now set up for radio checks only,its supposed to be in full operation now.

Somewhere I remember reading or hearing that radio checks were ok on 16. Ok, well, that is my mistake in trying to get a response on a radio check. I'm glad I asked. I know it is for emergencies, so I did wait until there were no transmissions of that type.

I posted a chart of how each channel is used. I'll look it up.... its on page 21
http://www.uniden.com/pdf/MHS350om.pdf

And some research from BoatSafe.com:
The Coast Guard First District (New England, south to northern New Jersey) is now answering radio checks on VHF maritime channel 16, operations permitting. Radio checks will not be answered when CG radio operators are handling distress communications.
The purpose of this policy change is to help reduce hoax MAYDAY calls. Radio checks with the Coast Guard are not permitted in any other location.
You should limit your radio checks to working channels.

JoeBeck · 01-25-2011, 08:27 AM

I always carry a VHF. I have used it to call for help for myself and my wife once and have used it to call for help for other boaters 2 times, those boaters had cell phones and could not get a hold of people who could help them. One call from my radio and help was on its way.

Better safe than not. A phone is good to carry as well but if you need immediate assistance on the water channel 16 will get you help whether from a rescue personnel or a boat that is close by.

I also like the radio to communicate with others I am on the water with.

JoeBeck · 01-25-2011, 08:45 AM

Yeah, I don't think you are supposed to do radio checks on 16 since that channel is for emergencies only. But even when you feel your radio is out of range most likely the coast guard will be able to hear your distress signal. I have an icom m34 and last time out at Catalina by the west end a boater and his family were stuck on shore, for some reason his radio did not work or he did not know how to use it, he could not get a hold of anyone on his phone and to make things worst he had no food on the boat, just beer and a small amount of water. I radioed out on channel 16, I was heard in San Pedro and my message was relayed to harbor patrol in Avalon who could not hear me on channel 9 (the channel they monitor). Help was on the way for the boater and his family quickly. Stupid boater who a kayaker helped out, I gave his family some energy bars too that I also carry on my kayak in case of emergencies

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If you are a boater in the ocean, don't beach your boat like you are at a lake, tides change, swells come in and out, next thing you know your boat is not in the water anymore and stuck on a beach.

01-24-2011, 10:51 PM	#1
poorpaddy Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego (North Park) Posts: 32	I have high hopes that I'll catch something large enough to drag me several miles...so I got a Standard Horizon HX851 and love it. But in all seriousness, being new to Kayak fishing I'm terrified of some of the speed boats I can clearly see folks drinking at high speeds and of course the possibility that too long in the sun and heavy tides could be easily under estimated.

01-25-2011, 06:47 AM	#2
old_rookie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Santee Posts: 904	I bought a used Uniden unit. I take it with me each time I go out - clipped to my PFD and leashed. I monitor channel 16, and a few others. Obviously it works for listening, but I'm still wondering if it works the other way around, I try a radio check each time, but get no response. So I don't know if it is broadcasting far enough or I'm requesting a radio check incorrectly. I have done a basic test at home with a radio scanner and that works. As others have mentioned, I don't go out very far - at most 2 miles from the launch at LJ Shores.

01-25-2011, 06:53 AM	#3
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	It's really your life line, God forbid anything bad happens out there, and for the safety factor, I think it is a no brainer. They are a significant investment, but I think it is a necessity...

01-25-2011, 07:55 AM	#5
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Channel 16 is for emergencies only,(for the most part). Its the coast guard channel. Used for reporting hazards on the water, stranded boats,etc. Its like the land #911. Very annoying when montoring 16 and some nitwit calls in for a radio check. Channel 27 is now set up for radio checks only,its supposed to be in full operation now.

01-25-2011, 08:27 AM	#8
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	I always carry a VHF. I have used it to call for help for myself and my wife once and have used it to call for help for other boaters 2 times, those boaters had cell phones and could not get a hold of people who could help them. One call from my radio and help was on its way. Better safe than not. A phone is good to carry as well but if you need immediate assistance on the water channel 16 will get you help whether from a rescue personnel or a boat that is close by. I also like the radio to communicate with others I am on the water with.

01-25-2011, 08:45 AM	#9
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	Yeah, I don't think you are supposed to do radio checks on 16 since that channel is for emergencies only. But even when you feel your radio is out of range most likely the coast guard will be able to hear your distress signal. I have an icom m34 and last time out at Catalina by the west end a boater and his family were stuck on shore, for some reason his radio did not work or he did not know how to use it, he could not get a hold of anyone on his phone and to make things worst he had no food on the boat, just beer and a small amount of water. I radioed out on channel 16, I was heard in San Pedro and my message was relayed to harbor patrol in Avalon who could not hear me on channel 9 (the channel they monitor). Help was on the way for the boater and his family quickly. Stupid boater who a kayaker helped out, I gave his family some energy bars too that I also carry on my kayak in case of emergencies . If you are a boater in the ocean, don't beach your boat like you are at a lake, tides change, swells come in and out, next thing you know your boat is not in the water anymore and stuck on a beach.