Bonking, Sugar and Hoopnetting... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

THE DARKHORSE · 02-03-2011, 08:19 PM

So my advice should be obvious: eat food

m1k3midg3 · 02-03-2011, 08:28 PM

im soooo glad im young and dont have to worry about running out of sugar in my blood lololololol

jorluivil · 02-03-2011, 10:11 PM

Do you think that maybe you bonk because you're overworking yourself? How about letting the nets soak for 15-20 minutes instead of your traditional 5 minutes? I tend to set two 'honeyhole' nets and the other three are scattered so that once I do start to pull it will take 20-30 minutes between the time I pull the first and last. Once the last is pulled I sit back, gather my senses and relax.

My buddy has the same issue, that's one of the reasons he's selling his yak now, he tends to loose energy quickly. It wasn't uncommon for him to carry 32oz soda and a small ziplock filled with bite sized Snickers....maybe you should do the same.

Fiskadoro · 02-03-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

Do you think that maybe you bonk because you're overworking yourself? How about letting the nets soak for 15-20 minutes instead of your traditional 5 minutes?

I think you misunderstood...

Do the math... 5 nets, pulling a net every five minutes is 25 minute soaks. 30 minutes if you add travel time from one end of the string to the other.

For instance say I pull net one a 10:00 pm net 2 get's pulled at 10:05, net 3 at 10:10, net 4 at 10:15, net 5 at 10:20, then figure five to ten minutes to paddle back to net 1, take a drink of water wash off the yak and start over. So net one get's pulled again at between 10:25 to 10:30.

You loose time when you get a legal bug but then make it up by paddling and pulling faster, and usually I try to set up the nets so it take about 2 minutes to paddle from one to the next one which gives me three to pull the net and get any bugs I got into the box. If you check out the vids you'll see my pace is pretty consistent, more then I thought it'd be

It's a grind the basic idea is you want pull a net every five minutes or each net twice in an hour. Four hours 5 nets pulled twice an hour is forty pulls. Five hours fifty pulls. No doubt it's a workout but it get's bug limits, and that's what I'm out there for.

Basically you and I are pulling at the same pace but I'm running a longer string of nets then you are spacing them out further in a line down the outside while you bunch your nets together on the inside, and I' hooping longer hours. After four hours I get pretty tired but there are nights where I drop my first net a 10pm, then hoop till the sun comes up then load everything in daylight while saying hello to my friends at the ramp as they are headed out fishing.

You're essentially right... between paddling and pulling, and the time I put in I do overwork myself, that's why I'm running out of blood sugar. I just want to push harder, hoop longer and still feel better at the end of the trip when I get back in and have to load the FND on the truck

Jim

Fiskadoro · 02-03-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE

So my advice should be obvious: eat food

LOL... Who said your a fatass...

Yeah us skinny F#@KS don't have the reserves you have, but yeah I should definatly eat something

jorluivil · 02-03-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Day

LOL... Who said your a fatass...

Yeah us skinny F#@KS don't have the reserves you have, but yeah I should definatly eat something

Maybe that's why I don't have that issue. I'm 5'11" and weigh 230lbs

Regor · 02-04-2011, 05:45 AM

I've only been hoopin a few times, but have found out just how much of a workout it is. And being a Diabetic, I've always got my sugar levels on my mind. Better for my levels to be a little high than risk going low.

What has worked for me for hoopin is to eat my late dinner after dropping the last net. There's enough proteins and carbs in a good Fish & Shrimp burrito to get me through. I also take along stashed away a number of crackers, i.e. "Club & Cheddar Sandwich Crackers". Just enough sugar and carbs to keep my sugars up. A banana is also good for potassium to keep your muscles going.

If you eat, you won't need anything but water. But if your skipping a meal over that long (overnight hooping), you'll need something to give you the goods to keep going.

Remember one more thing I pay attention to (the diabetic side of me)
~ Carbs turn into sugar (power) over a long period of time
~ Sugar is an immediate hit to your system

Greg

taggermike · 02-05-2011, 12:30 PM

I hate hoopin but I used to night fish SD Bay for corvina off the kayak and during the grunion runs. I never bonked but I definately tired out when it got way past my bed time. One thing that helped me was to eat something like a second dinner before I hit the water. Nothing too heavy, maybe a burrito or a PB&J. I stayed away from the caffene becasue I wanted to be able to fall asleep when I got home. Mike

02-03-2011, 08:19 PM	#1
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	I'm a fat a$$, too... So my advice should be obvious: eat food __________________

02-03-2011, 08:28 PM	#2
m1k3midg3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 108	im soooo glad im young and dont have to worry about running out of sugar in my blood lololololol

02-03-2011, 10:11 PM	#3
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Do you think that maybe you bonk because you're overworking yourself? How about letting the nets soak for 15-20 minutes instead of your traditional 5 minutes? I tend to set two 'honeyhole' nets and the other three are scattered so that once I do start to pull it will take 20-30 minutes between the time I pull the first and last. Once the last is pulled I sit back, gather my senses and relax. My buddy has the same issue, that's one of the reasons he's selling his yak now, he tends to loose energy quickly. It wasn't uncommon for him to carry 32oz soda and a small ziplock filled with bite sized Snickers....maybe you should do the same.

02-04-2011, 05:45 AM	#7
Regor Greg Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chula Vista, ca Posts: 509	I've only been hoopin a few times, but have found out just how much of a workout it is. And being a Diabetic, I've always got my sugar levels on my mind. Better for my levels to be a little high than risk going low. What has worked for me for hoopin is to eat my late dinner after dropping the last net. There's enough proteins and carbs in a good Fish & Shrimp burrito to get me through. I also take along stashed away a number of crackers, i.e. "Club & Cheddar Sandwich Crackers". Just enough sugar and carbs to keep my sugars up. A banana is also good for potassium to keep your muscles going. If you eat, you won't need anything but water. But if your skipping a meal over that long (overnight hooping), you'll need something to give you the goods to keep going. Remember one more thing I pay attention to (the diabetic side of me) ~ Carbs turn into sugar (power) over a long period of time ~ Sugar is an immediate hit to your system Greg

02-05-2011, 12:30 PM	#8
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	I hate hoopin but I used to night fish SD Bay for corvina off the kayak and during the grunion runs. I never bonked but I definately tired out when it got way past my bed time. One thing that helped me was to eat something like a second dinner before I hit the water. Nothing too heavy, maybe a burrito or a PB&J. I stayed away from the caffene becasue I wanted to be able to fall asleep when I got home. Mike